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" This is true. However, they didn't need backup. And nor is your job, as Chief of the NSB, to break into the ICC, place yourself in harms way to take a photo. That is not YOUR job. That is your organization's job. If that had escalated further than it had gone, you would risk getting yourself killed for being an idiot while being a General Officer." Your argument is "I didn't like how you roleplayed as NSB Chief so I treated you and the NSB like a dog!" Even if a general is an idiot, you as a random Hauptman can't do anything about it. The extent to which you are trying to make it out like I was being unreasonable is insane.
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No command staff, there is clips to prove this wrong and logs. No door was kicked that you knew about... the front gate was open and we walked in. You have no platform, the evidence is with UA. Your argument is "I didnt like how you RP'd so I detained you!" , yea you detained the Chief of the NSB and all the NSB during a lawful protective custody!
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The Tragedy of Reinhardt Wilhelm the Wise
Yakubian Boglodite replied to Asunder's topic in PK Appeals
After reading through this i can almost 100% agree that the NSB is attempting to faction wipe feld, there as far as im aware only 1 CO not in custody at this time, and he is a leutnant A whole department is about to die because tuff asses want it to -
Wulf von Blackstein PK appeal
Yakubian Boglodite replied to Yakubian Boglodite's topic in PK Appeals
Just got informed the deputy chief of feld just got PK'd there is currently only 2 remaining CO's of feld remaining with one being prosecuted by the NSB, this is a faction wipe -
Wulf von Blackstein PK appeal
Yakubian Boglodite replied to Yakubian Boglodite's topic in PK Appeals
if you want any proof that my "questioning" was a 2 hour clipfarm ragebait session here is how NSB responds to PK appeals -
Posted April 11, 2024 Character's name & rank: Wulf von Blackstein Oberleutnant SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:0:435823148 Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): I dont know Explain why you were PK'd: Disconnected in NSB custody Why should you be un-PK'd?: My PCO as far as i was aware was meta gamed originally. as it was written for me after i switched off my NSB character to my feld character, the person who wrote it was a staff member so its entirely possible that he saw me switch characters and decided to write the PCO just to get back at me for switching characters, as i can quote directly reto stein insulting me for accidently switching off in the middle of some arrest stating "what a fag, thats gay as fuck if he did that" this was after an accidental switch btw But after i was served my PCO i was brought to the MOI building and for the next TWO HOURS, i was ragebaited by the NSB inbetween actually being questioned for anything they found a reason to question me on. For two in real life hours i was denied any court trial or anything other then being locked in a room and insulted or ragebaited and i was entirely powerless in this situation, even after cooperating with the NSB i was yelled at and insulted so the people there could clipfarm it this was not 2 hours of RP, it was 2 hours of high ranking NSB officials targetting me for switching off and insulting me so they could clip it and claim i crashed out, this became very apparent after an hour of random NSB agents walking inside the office to watch them rage bait me, i can even remember directly a member of NSB calling out a voice crack i had No one should be forced into a 2 hour rage bait session in the name of "rp" in what definition of the word "roleplay" does it entail clip farming a CO of feld, It doesnt. Now i would like to state that the NSB has already had issue with feldjager members in the past, such as PKing patrick busch the chief of the feld, which almost lead to its downfall. My full believe is that the NSB is trying to faction wipe the feldjagers, due to me being 1 of 4 CO's the feld currently have active, leaving only the chief the deputy chief and a recent transfer CO to run the faction. And im not the only CO they are going after. they are actively making up crimes the chief as committed in an attempt to either PK or get him discharged from the military which is a faction wipe, Once bobb pikemen is removed there will be no one who is informed enough to take his place nor would they want to due to the very high chances of being targeted by the NSB for just being in the feld I understand the main draw of the server is political rp, but when one party who is almost untouchable utilizes this to destroy an entire department of the military and PK characters who might have taken months to build simply because they want to, this doesnt seem fair to the common player Wulf von blackstein was my original character and ive had him since i started playing on the server, for him to be PK because i refuse as a man with common sense to sit in a room for 2 hours to be clip farmed by NSB members who due it out of spite is insane, now if he is not unpk'd id request the ability to re-enlist into the feld once my ban is removed, as i was the lead prosecution of the feld i find it almost necessary for me to exist within it as quickly as possible Additional Information: NSB Bias incoming
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I am THE Feldjager Command Staff present. The Deputy Chief. And there is no other command staff. And every Feldjager was with me, following the four NSB around ensuring no one obstructed the NSB while they searched. You are just lying at this point. I'm unsure why you are lying when Prime oversaw it. I, a command staff of the feldjagers, have my photo taken by a man breaking into the base who IS the Chief of the NSB, after the previous Chief of the Feldjagers was dragged off and subequently never seen again by Joachim Sammler. The Oberleutnant was surrounded in prisoner diamond by the NSB. There is absolutely no way we could obstruct with the IDing of him. This obstruction only occured after your interference and refusal to cooperate and deescalate lead to chaos that had to be rectified with you in ties over cameras. When again, you're trespassing. The NSB being blocked in question you go on to talk about, is Reto Stein. Reto Stein, is not there for the Oberleutnant, but instead he is there for Joachim Sammler. He is not pursuing that guy towards the FM's office, his whole detainment is about the custody of Joachim Sammler. Me blocking him did not allow the Oberleutnant to escape. What lead to his escape is your refusal and Reto Stein's refusal to cooperate leading to other members of the Heer+Mountaineers mistaking that original team of 4, as another team of intruders. Some people came late and dont know who was authorized, so they just tied them all. I rectified this by freeing the team leader and letting him resume as he were to the best of his ability. Had you and Reto Stein absolutely not breached the compound and REFUSED to cooperate with military police, who are trying to escort another team of four agents, you'd have him in your custody no issues. But you didn't comply. You said you were granted entry. Now you are saying you had probable cause. If you had probable cause, you weren't get granted entry. If you were granted entry, you didn't enter under probable cause. If you entered under probable cause, then told me you were granted entry, then you did what happened to yourself. You are chief of the NSB. You are THE commander. While your organization is charged with enforcing PCOs and when they need backup, you show up. This is true. However, they didn't need backup. And nor is your job, as Chief of the NSB, to break into the ICC, place yourself in harms way to take a photo. That is not YOUR job. That is your organization's job. If that had escalated further than it had gone, you would risk getting yourself killed for being an idiot while being a General Officer. I treated you like a dog for lying to my face, and again abusing the trust to repeat the same thing that got you detained. Taking a picture while trespassing of a command member. I took the cameras, untied you, and let you walk yourself out of the base. Instead you run back inside, grab another camera to try and sneak another photo. That didn't pan out. You break in. You take a photo, refuse to comply, I detain you. You commit a crime. I catch you. And you feel grief that you got caught by a Hauptmann? Or is it the second detainment where I have you dragged out? This was our first interaction and you abused my trust and the respect towards your office I afforded you by not shoving you into a cell and having the Feldmarschall involved. I let you walk, I didn't strip anything off of you but cameras because anything more would be unncessary. I gave the NSB multiple chances to "reattempt" entry the lawful way. They did not budge and effectively stonewalled. They forced entry, and I as the Feldjagers am charged with PREVENTING that from happening. I am CHARGED with allowing LAWFUL,PEACEFUL,ORDERLY entry to ensure you are not lost, ensure no one kidnaps you, and that none of you sneak off to do something else. You did not carry yourself like an NSB Chief. You carried yourself quite literally like a section chief. Your men were not being obstructed until after Reto Stein and yourself threatened the security of the escort and would lead to to a team of trespassing NSB being unchecked. Forcing a "hard reset" to keep the peace. I am not a random Hauptmann. I am THE Deputy of the Feldjagers of Brandenburg, stationed in the Capital, in not any random base, but that of Fort Baumer, in the Imperial Capital. You, the CHIEF of the nations Main Security Apparatus BREACHED said military base and did not comply with said police forces. Again, every person I ordered detained were either trespassing and refusing to comply with me. I had you detained and escorted out, which is legal, and NOT grief. YOU acted like a child, and as such you suffered consequences, and felt it was "grief" that I wouldn't let you walk all over the military base like you own the base after BREAKING into it. If you truly believed you had probable cause. You wouldn't lie saying The General let you in. I fail to see how you suffering consequences for brash decisions, consequences being..I took 600 deutschmarks of cameras off of you..and being dragged out after you REPEATED the same crime you got detained for the first time a second time immediately after we release you, should warrant me getting murdered. If you truly cared about what I was doing was illegal, you would've taken it to trial, or tried any other LEGAL SOLUTION to the problem. If the CIA Director BREACHES a base without being cleared by MPs, of which, everyone who goes through a military checkpoint gets IDed to verify who they are, he is probably going to get shot. You were not IDed. You were not cleared for entry, there was not appropriate staffing to ensure your safety, safety of Reto Stein's team, and safety of the original team. That is the point of us handling your entrance to the base. You, unlike the CIA director, door kicked or ran into a swung wide open door. Instead of answering to the security of the compound, which the CIA director understands has the right to ID who he is to ensure PROPER SECURITY of himself, and information and duties he may carry out on the base. Anything less puts him, materials and information entrusted at risk. And if he STORMED a military base BY HIMSELF refusing to comply with a checkpoint, he is going to be treated far less handsomely than we treated you. Police very much "stop the problem" and let the courts sort it out. We didn't get that far. We went straight to murdering me because I stopped you from breaching the ICC and taking photos.
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Wrong "You acted like a dog" I walked in due to Probable Cause. Suspect was evading an arrest and identified by my agents, I entered to protect my agent and explain the situation. I took a photo of the illegal activity i saw. I refused to give you an item which is in my right as you have no legal protection from it and I am the Director of the National Security Bureau, you detained me. "But no you wanted to roleplay a yellow page journalist and take pictures on a military installation after breaking in, YOU shouldn't be doing that. Reto Stein, sure. His NCOs, sure. But not you, the chief of the entire nations internal security apparatus. That was dumb. Stop pretending it isn't. You put yourself beneath your station and are surprised when people beneath you, interact." Command Staff and the Feldjagers were assisting this individual in evading an protective custody warrant, my job is to protect my department and entering to speak to these people is my job. Taking photos is a part of working the National Security Bureau. If you were so worried about my "illegal actions", maybe just maybe, document it with the 30+ Witnesses. (Wait it wasn't illegal!) "The Oberleutnant is surrounded, being IDed, and not resisting, keys in hand, arms at his side. Resisting is a bold word to use for a guy unarmed, surrounded by 5 people, being actively IDed. You actively THREW that operation. We handed him to you, and you, in your ego, felt I must escalate this situation and make it chaotic, and unorganized with my barbarian behavior!" Your operation would have been successful if you just stood in the MoI and let your agents do the work. " Lets not pretend anyone was allowing the IDs to be taken. Especially over the Oberleutnant. As a matter of fact, you blocked the NSB and detained command staff, of course I entered. You blocked so much that he just ran to the FM office (clip as well) Throwing insults wont get you anywhere! "having me literally fucking murdered after I screamed, the entire way out, YOU, RETO, and SAMMLER have taken me" Yea so do half the idiots, you hang with. "The whole point of conflict here, is you were there illegally. Trespassing. Your actions were not state sanctioned." Once again probable cause, regardless you had no grounds to try and treat me like a dog and detain the entire national security bureau. Of course you died. You cant treat the NSB Chief like that, you played your cards in the moment and I played mine. You are like the military police captain at some random military base detaining the Director of the CIA and his agents while serving out a warrant, because you didn't like his behavior (which wasn't even crazy). Femboy crash outs are to much!
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This is a great idea, one that myself has been pushing for. Unfortunately, using a red cross violates international copyright laws without explicit permission, so it is important to select a different insignia. I thought maybe the caduceus with some color marking would be sufficient, but would likely require some modeling and retexturing. Still a big +1 from the DRK-Präsident though!
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Yes, I am the Deputy Chief of the Feldjagers. I get access to many officers. I am close to the War Minister. I am close to most of the general staff. As an asset to the NSB, you could get far more out of me ratting than satiating your ego by having me literally fucking murdered after I screamed, the entire way out, YOU, RETO, and SAMMLER have taken me. Everyone who saw me dragged away, has YOUR name, and your agents who took me. Why you killed me after that, is beyond me. You had another way to solve this issue. You could've tried a court room. You could've turned me into an an NSB asset at the threat of death. You could've forced me to resign. Forced me to transfer to the KG. Anything. But rather than do that. You want to murder me over "GRIEF" after you acted out like a child. Do not pretend anything you did was "becoming" of the Chief of the National Security Bearu. If I had kicked my way into the NSB wing and told you "The Generalinspektor gave me permission" you would have done the same thing. Had Dietrich von Coburg done the same thing and said he was let in, and took photos of YOUR command staff, you would have him detained, camera taken away, and then PUT into a interview room then questioned. I let you walk. And you disrespected that liberty I afforded you after your initial resistance. You forced me to detain you by BREAKING into the ICC AND taking photos of command members of the Feldjagers, weeks after the previous command was killed or trialed. You were asked to hand it over. You refused. You were asked to ID who let you in, you did not. You did not cooperate in the slightest in a way that would've deescalated it. You kept stone walling and not cooperating with military police, so it got escalated. So you got cuffed and I allowed you the opportunity to walk away. You CHOSE to take another photo in front of all of us. I dont know what you thought was going to happen. "Oh man, he did it again. Let him go". No, not going to happen. I made clear what was going to happen with your previous lack of cooperation with the Feldjagers while you were trespassing. The whole point of conflict here, is you were there illegally. Trespassing. Your actions were not state sanctioned. Just because a PCO is occuring inside the ICC does not grant your entry. The Feldjagers or Command grant you entry, or a warrant does. None of the three occured, no warrant, no feldjager, and no command authorized you there. So your presence was unwelcomed, and unlawful. As such, you were subject to my authority as the Feldjagers for Brandenburg. Which hold policing authorities during times of war as instructed by the Emperor. I dont think that is debatable. I dont think you are above being policed. I detained you for a crime. I didn't charge you, I didn't rob you, I didn't rob you of rights. I afforded you the repsect of your office and you threw it away by being like "any other dog". Blame yourself, not me. I reacted to your actions. Your actions informed my decisions as a policing officer. You proved unreliable, I afforded you trust and you broke it, I gave you your respect, and you abused it. So I treated you like any other dog to restore order and end the chaos that was that blob of people. You literally sabotaged your own PCO on that 1st Lieutenant. Shouldn't have been there. I'm sorry you think this is rage bait, I genuinely just think you have a personal grudge against me. I want my character back, I want to die, justly, and not because Gator Grant cant stand being destroyed by a gay man on a gmod server.
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The Oberleutnant is surrounded, being IDed, and not resisting, keys in hand, arms at his side. Resisting is a bold word to use for a guy unarmed, surrounded by 5 people, being actively IDed. You actively THREW that operation. We handed him to you, and you, in your ego, felt I must escalate this situation and make it chaotic, and unorganized with my barbarian behavior!" Your operation would have been successful if you just stood in the MoI and let your agents do the work. Its a 1st Lieutenant. Why are you, Head of the Entire Nations Security Bureau hunting him in the streets yourself. You did not act like command. You acted like a Hauptmann. You acted brash. You acted foolishly. Then appealed to your rank, while illegally on the military base, by the way! And got cuffed. If you had been permitted entry, I would have no problem with you in there. However, access policy is very specific that even the Interior Minister must go through Feldjager or a Command Member. If your BOSS is not immune to the access policy, by extension, neither are yourself Mr.Ragnarok. "Escorted out" is a way to say you dragged, unsearched and released under armed escort, or you were walked out untied, with dignity, like I offered you the first time. But no you wanted to roleplay a yellow page journalist and take pictures on a military installation after breaking in, YOU shouldn't be doing that. Reto Stein, sure. His NCOs, sure. But not you, the chief of the entire nations internal security apparatus. That was dumb. Stop pretending it isn't. You put yourself beneath your station and are surprised when people beneath you, interact. You forced me to backdown, infront of all my subordinates, and the armed, or do as I am charged by the Feldjager Mandate given to me by the War Minister, Deputy to the Emperor in all affairs that are war, as the supreme commander of the imperial war authority. It is literally "Do my due diligence as I am charged, or be scared because he is inserting himself where he shouldn't". I offered you your dignity. I offered you a way out. To let you be command. But no. You wanted to be a Major. So you were treated like a Major. You get what you asked for, Mr.Ragnarok.
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"Zero Legal Standing". Its called you were not let in by anyone, you cannot name anyone who let you in, no one admitted to who let you in, so the only course of action is you are trespassing. I asked you to leave. Yes you are a General of the NSB but you are still answerable to the law. You, trespassing, took pictures within the ICC. This could be trumped to espionage. I dont need to point to a bill from the FC to say I have probable cause that you are committing an illicit act via trespassing AND taking photos of command members of the Brandenburg District after recent murders of Feldjager command, and of a Reserve Army General. I detained you like any other dog after repeatedly asking you to both leave the ICC, and hand over the camera. You did NOT comply with being asked to hand over the camera. You turned around and talked to me like "any other dog" and then acted "like any other dog", and then started to wiggle while actively trespassing and taking pictures of a Feldjager command member, after Patrik Butsch was taken by the NSB and was later found missing. You not only LIED to my face, you then refused to comply when I was nice to you. When people searched you, I had them reprimanded. They were NOT authorized to search you. It was one mountaineer and myself in your pockets. The mountaineer did not walk free until after myself was taken away and then murdered. (Shocker!) After I took your cameras. I untie you and give you the dignity to walk out. "Any other dog" I would have stripped, kept tied, and shoved into a cell. I gave you the liberty to keep your arms, your papers unchecked, and your ability to walk out after gathering your escort. Instead you scavenge another camera from god knows where and take another photo, and begin to run, pistol in your hand on safety. Only complying once surrounded and searched again. You acted like a dog. You are the NSB Director. Carry yourself like a pompous gentlemen, or something else, but acting like "any other dog" will get you treated like "any other dog". You are by far the most uncouth general of the NSB I interacted with. Reto Stein acts with more decorum as a Colonel by the way. Even if I had him tied, its because he refused to "reattempt" his entry with Feldjager permission at my request, and then at my order. He asked if I would tie them all up and I did after they refused to even comply, let alone suggest meeting in the middle and sending his guards to the gate, and he verify Sammler is safe, and in the cells. I ordered your detainment only for the cameras to be taken from you. You misbehaved, strangely, like a child when you suffered consequences for your actions. You acted in such a way that I am forced to ASKS you to hand it over. Which I did. Kindly. Repeatedly. You denied. You got twitchy and started escalating by "sounding the panic alarm" and getting twitchy. You were released and were told please see yourself out. "Any other dog" would be disarmed. Tied. Shoved in a cell, interrogated, and then released, or charged. I gave you a liberty I would not give any other trespasser who is taking pictures of command, and resisting detainment. I let you reattempt to leave on your own terms and you dont, you simply reattempt what got you detained in the first place. You're trespassing. Whatever you do that would be legal under lawful entry, is illegal and not state sanctioned. Lawful policing actions, are state sanctioned, unlawful ones, are not. I AFFORDED you trust and respect as a general, and your protections, and you took advantage of them to REPEAT your ILLICIT actions IN FRONT of the MILITARY POLICE who DECIDE IF YOU STAY or IF YOU GO. You were being dumb. You know it. You are chief of the NSB, there is not a way in hell you think unlawful entry in a property still lets you act with policing authorities. If you wanted to be treated like a general, you should've acted like one. You and the every NSB but the original 4 were forcing their way in or lying about who granted them entry. I dont know where you got the idea that being CHief of the NSB lets you FORCE yourself into any property illegally, and you are protected from ANY repurcussions from a policing authority like the Feldjagers.
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since people are talking about whether he should know or not. The NSB right beside the "government official" was even telling him to listen.
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He did not attempt to "correct" me, but rather he continued to act in ways that would force me to escalate the situation to where I would inevitably get arrested and charged. He went straight to murdering me after purposely acting in such a way that forced me to treat him harshly. How do I correct you detaining the Director of the National Security Bureau and detaining the National Security Bureau? How did I force you to detain me, because I took a photo of you? (Again, which has no legal backing) "This screams him trying to bait into a situation where he suffers "grief" which he acts in a way that FORCES me to surround him and tie him and start getting guns on him to comply." Bait? I took photos of illegal actions, what bait are you on about. No one forced you to do anything, you just chose to try and embarrass me! This whole appeal is rage bait.
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"General Falkner also arrived in the previous chaos and joins the blob of people trying to ID this Oberleutnant. I stop the General, no one knows who let him in, and he's being pursued by enlisted, and he doesn't tell me which general let him in " The Oberleutnant was trying to avoid a PCO for him, we caught him at the front gate and followed him in and radio'd to the agents which you were aware of! "About the same time, the team doing the PCO was mistaken for Reto Stein's team by Mountaineers and Enlisted and they were escorted out. " Lets not use words like escorted out, they were detained and dragged out around the same time you detained me the second time for taking pictures of you doing it.
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We walked in once we saw an individual evading a PCO. You decided to detain the Chief of the National Security Bureau twice and then proceeded to order the detainment of all of the NSB(On Clip). You are a Hauptman, your smart move was to document it, instead you detained me Infront of everyone, stole items off me, hampered an active protective custody order, and detained the NSB. You tried to act like a general. Regardless "He refuses to comply with the first ask, and then refuses to comply with the order to hand over his Camera, I ask him repeatedly, until he leaves me no choice but to tie him as he tries to flee with his camera. " There is zero legal standing to enforce this order, none to less detain and take property from the General of the National Security Bureau. "The NSB Director did not attempt another way to resolve the situation, he did not interview me after PCOing me clearing up who granted him entry and getting me to apologize, or coercing me into an informant agreement" You detained me like any other dog, I have nothing to say to you, you attempted to embarrass me and put me in my place. You apologizing doesn't mater. Summary, you ordered the detainment of the national security bureau, detained me (Direct of the National Security Bureau), and then proceeded to take cameras off me. This idea of treating a general like some random officer or enlisted is what got you killed alongside your other "Wise" actions. Not just any General either, the Director of the Nation Security Bureau! So, yea, you got picked up and died.
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Denied. You hit a member of the Kaisergarde with your car, they tried to arrest you, surrounded you and held you under gunpoint, therefore, meaning you're under Fear RP, and then you decided to get in your car and drive off. Therefore, you fell under the PK guideline: "Being killed while not abding by Fear RP".
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Denied. As Lentz explained, you we're PKd because you ran into a hostage situation and shot one of the hostage takers, then his friend ran in and shot you afterwards. This is clear grounds for a PK, i'm not sure what else you expected.
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+1 twin
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I was the Bank robber that shot you in the back of the head, i told you i was walking out of the bank to put the money in the cars and if anything happens the hostages will be killed. i walked back in to the the bank you were standing inside with your pistol pointed at my fellow robber i said what the fuck are you doing in here you shot an killed him with a shotgun pointed at your back. also the only two MOI generals on at the time both said they didn't give you any order.
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So as I explained in the sit, you we're PKd because you ran into a hostage situation and shot one of the hostage takers, then his friend ran in and shot you afterwards. Alongside with this I was there for the whole situation and no General gave the order to move in and kill the robbers, nothing else has to be said here, you started a gunfight and died.
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Sir another dogshit pk appeal has hit the forums
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> i shot a guy > his comrade killed me "why was i pked?"