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I just figured that someone who's player number is basically day 1 to the server would be very well versed in rules. I feel that it certainly warranted a note, and like I had said basically as soon as 178 popped in, mango was not going to be pressing him, which struck me as odd. Like I said I may just be retarded in this situation, but it seemed pretty odd. Not to beat a dead horse, but him showing up in a building moments after coming in and killing me to press an individual who was in a building that was literally his property and has keys to, was really weird as well and would also fall into some sort of exemption on the PK because me and the guy i was with had each others F3 and that dude had just rdmd me while he was 9 feet above him on the catwalk, kind of seems like the guy I was with was certainly going to be considered PK active, if not for killing me, certainly for coming back in a couple minutes and trying to illegally arrest him, which when he pulls the trench shotgun out and says "don't move,dont move" moments after killing his buddy with that same gun seems a bit more plausible to warrant a PK. Mango handling both of them and nothing coming of it just seemed off to me. But that being said, no asskissing or glazing, you are the most well rounded and logical staff around, but with all of the context in mind if you say that no wrongdoing is found, then I will fully accept that and formally apologize to Mangoman.

Your Name: Hanz Glief SteamID32: 76561199634477157 Staff Member's Name(s): Mangoman Staff Member's SteamID32(s): unknown Rules Broken / Conduct issues (Provide evidence for each): He appeared to be giving a man who was player #178 the lightest slap on the wrist I've seen. Evidence (Videos/Screenshots): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/k6LJ6Hp9Uc4Q04OWQ?invite=cr-MSxWbWUsMzMyNjc5NDg5 this is me getting RDM'd, and the entirety of the staff sit. this is from the guy that i was in the same building with that being harassed moments later, the person who rdm'd me, thought he would do a little fearrp sort of talking, "dont move,dont move" with the gun out that he just killed me with less than 2 mins before. Garry's Mod - Clipped with Medal.tv Additional Information: This guy "player 178" should know better in my opinion than to go rdm me and then sit there and lie in the staff sit, he claims that he was looking for a bald guy with a gun. He claims that "he thought I had a gun" but also says "he couldn't see because it was dark" but my fists were out, pretty clear from the bobbing that the char does with his fists out. None of this made sense, which is why I am reporting the admin who did absolutely nothing to the guy who RDM'd and then lied in the staff sit. The second clip that I provided was from the guy that was in the same building as me processing, he made a PK ticket that mango also "handled". His situation is a bit odd because it's sort of fearrp, sort of not. But my case was certainly valid, and mango was writing it off as soon as the dude got there. Prime advised me that if he was in that situation he would have simply "rdm'd him 10x" which obviously is not allowed, not sure if I'm retarded or the staff is just staff abusing. I am sure you will let me know. Last note, if you watch the first clip where I was rdm'd and the guy claimed he thought I was the bald man with a gun that he was looking for, you'll notice that less than a second had passed from the time he appeared on my screen to the moment he killed me(which provides undeniable proof that he was lying)

Hope that's better bro, sorry it took so long, I've had a long day today.

Also to address what you said, from my perspective I seen no gun, you can see from his video that he didn’t even have a gun out until my back was to him, furthermore, just because a ransom civ is running by you saying stop a bunch of times doesn’t mean you’ve got to stop (in my defense as not seeing the gun) had he said this is a mugging or anything of that nature I feel it would have been slightly different but as I said I didn’t even hear him say anything to me, I just saw a civ run by me and I was running to get back to our civil war.(which my erratic running may be able to be explained as I was in quite a hurry to make a flank on the nsb, I had driven from kg around to car dealer to stop by the drug dealer npc (gotta keep those troops supplied somehow) and then I was hitting the loop to be behind the MOI so it could be a “pinch sort of situation” and we could have them fight on two fronts. But like i said I’m a very tired guy rn, and I’ll fix the format tomorrow, I’ll probably drop the staff sit clips too.

Shoot I will fix it tomorrow, I’m super tired, long day.

I should add that this was my only char that was a tier 5 party member which is big sad to lose as well, He was also my first char, and was named after my grandfather whom has passed. 2nd note: This dude seemed PK hungry or something.

Character's name & rank: Feldwebel Alfeo Angelotti SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): 76561199634477157 Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Fidel issued it if i'm not mistaken Explain why you were PK'd: Apparently this gentleman had tried to mug me while a civil war was occurring(i was doing very well i might add probably well enough to get a medal or promotion) Why should you be un-PK'd?: He didn't pull out a gun until my back was turned to him and I was heading to my car to get back to the action, from his clip he simply said "stop" which I not only didn't hear but even if I had heard I likely wouldn't have stopped, there is probably 5-10 "white shirts" a day that say "hey hey stop hey stop" and usually I will stop in case they need help(information, new to berlin, etc.) I have been mugged plenty of times, I'm not new to it, I get how it works. but unfortunately the high stakes (civil war) and this man simply saying stop with a gun at my back that I was unaware of led me to do carry on with what I was doing. in the staff sit I even dropped stuff for him as a gesture "like hey man total misunderstanding but I will try to make it right" he took the stuff and then insisted on a PK... The totality of circumstances should be taken into account in my opinion, the guy even got grilled by some higher admin the admin said" what are you out just mugging in the middle of a civil war for?" he responded "the war wasn't going on when it happened" which it very much was, I just got done taking 15-20 heads off of shoulders from KG with the kar98k. Again, I was balls deep in serious RP, If you are curious what I was doing away from the KG building(which you likely are), we had just pushed them back and of course the grind must continue as well so I went to purchase a shipment as quick as possible so I could stay suppling my fellow troops with guns and supplies. Additional Information: Garry's Mod - Clipped with Medal.tv This was his perspective, unfortunately I didn't clip it from my perspective, I always clip situations if I even think there's a possibility of shenanigans. From his perspective though you can clearly see that my back was turned when he pulled a gun out (explanation to why I didn't know what was going on, not to mention the whole ass war that was occurring it was a bit chaotic) furthermore from his clip he simply said "stop" like 2-3 times, which I did not hear but can be heard from his clip. in the staff sit his mic was cutting out as well. Both staff members seemed sympathetic to the situation because there was a whole civil war happening, which I was doing amazing in, yet this man thought he would use the time to go mugging. He claimed to not be a mugging char, but in the same breath sort of said that he was. I have been mugged dozens of times, I always just let them do their thing, I'm sure if you checked my logs that you would see that i don't fuck around at all. I was right in the middle of having an awesome RP experience after being gone for like 2 weeks, within an hour I get "mugged/PKd" I was even a good sport when I got pulled I was like "oh, simply a misunderstanding and I am more than happy to give you the things that I had when this situation occurred, I dropped the stuff, he took it, and then insisted that I get PKD. This was my highest ranking char, as previously stated, i was absolutely laying NSB down as KG in the war before I met an untimely end due to a misunderstanding. I was a good KG member, I consistently supplied members new or established with guns and supplies, I was very close to my higher ups, and I would very much appreciate a second opinion. The only other clips I have are of the staff sit where the man who's in a "criminal organization" and not a "mugging char" kind of fumbles around his words, especially when he got grilled about why the hell he was just out mugging when there's a serious RP event going on. If you guys want those clips just lemme know, I really hope this doesn't fall upon deaf ears and I can be shown a bit of mercy here. To put it short and sweet, This dude tried to mug me in a very odd way and I didn't see his gun and I didn't hear him, I don't know if it was his mic cutting out or my headset cutting out, but in his video like I said he says stop while I'm turned around running back to the fight. I would not have risked my main chars life over the BS that I had on me, I was a tier 5 established char. If anything had I realized I was being mugged I might have shot him instead, as I said I just came from a murder festival. Every time I've been mugged though I just let them have their way with my stuff.

looks like ill have no such luck rob, tragic.

Dude and real shit, I speak so highly of Coffee, val could probably corroborate that as well, sorry for the crash out, layhee was also correct in his presumption "I believe this is a compound issue from you being mugged repeatedly and losing money to the issue with the turbocharger not being properly working and now you're taking it out on the last person you interacted with." This was in large part due to me being mugged so often and even by the same people twice a day otherwise being mugged twice a day by randoms, along with the losses from the turbo charger, and the lawyer fee of 200k. I would like to add, that this situation that i got mugged in happened becasue i was trying to help a new player showing him the black market, telling him about different avenues in which he could go for his life in germany,etc., which is something that i consistently do aside from processing drugs and the small about of other RP. I plan on focusing less on the processing and more on RP. Not to get tooooooo personal, but im actually going through a really difficult time just in my personal life, divorce, family death, and new medications. So that is also why I was so pressed. Not to dismiss my behavior, it was just context that i felt i should add.

Shit man, at the end of the day, I am reasonable and I am human, I made a mistake by doing all this, and I would like to formerly apologize to everyone involved especially coffee, this was unwarranted and I should have left it at the staff sit.

you're good layhee, val just laid it out nice and well for me, but you've done good work as well. Mangos was ragebaiting up there though high key.

well god damn it val, you've done it again, you really have a way of explaining things. Furthermore, i agree with you at this point, this matter is considered closed.

I did not ignore it, it was simply irrelevant, and at this point I don't care about the guys that got away, I'm upset that coffee of all people wanted to bend rules in an egregious fashion. I have been calm since coffee pulled me for a staff sit, when I apologized, I was "mad" for all of 5 minutes.

I am clearly calm, and as previously stated, I even apologized to coffee for my "less than kind demeanor" in our sit.

Everyone here wants to berate me, but no one has invalidated a single point I've made. You have attacked my character, and been trying to glaze Coffee to get your up doots from him. I have made a valid claim and I would appreciate it if we could act like adults about this. I would like to reiterate that these people were minge chars to begin with, his description alone should have also been addressed.