Browniemeister

Approved.

I have reviewed the appeal. The ban is justified. Appeal: Denied Thread: Locked

+1 I have throughly enjoyed interacting with these guys over the past couple of days, I would just recommend having better control over the actions of your people but you seem to all be having fun.

What are you talking about with the Generalmajor losing a gunfight? I am genuinely confused at what you want me to address. I pushed you back from the door, I then went back to the door and stood on it. You then wait a few moments, take out your gun, and pop me in the head. You then were immediately gunned down. This is where the Generalmajor died, I just spoke to the person with me and he was holding the room after I was literally murdered outside. How would the Generalmajor be initiating anything when you were the person who shot? He stood by and let things happen because he was going to speak to us. You are now also accusing me of being negligent of the rules when I say things like ruleplay. What is also prioritized is making something fun. What is not fun is being immediately mowed down by someone because I hit them. If you were shoved on the street one day, would you immediately take out your firearm and shoot them 20 times to the chest? If you see a police officer push you out of the way while making an arrest, is that immediate justification to shoot them? It's roleplay, and you decided to roleplay being a mutt and shooting anybody that causes them issues. Entirely in your ability to do so as a character, but when you were shot dead for it don't be surprised when you die. Just as if I were to initiate a gunfight, I would be PK'ed. What I am annoyed about is that you are consistently arguing this PK based on moot points. Yes, you were frozen in the air then PK'ed. That is not how the treatment should be and I have already apologized: But again, this does not invalidate the status of your PK and as I stated if you have issues appeal on the forums. Your entire argument is based off the fact that I initiated when you can see clearly in the clip I gun bash you, move you away from the door that you were trying to get inside of, then leave you alone. ou decided to take out your gun and shoot upon myself to which you were killed by your own people. You state I broke 3 rules, please name them.

You addressed one point in the multiple I provided, metagame is the least of your concerns regarding the PK. I had no knowledge of if you did or didn't metagame because the situation was entirely separate from your discord. I think this will just be my last response, there's nothing more I can add regarding this PK appeal.

You're more then welcome to interact in situations around you, I have never contested that point. But initiation is under different clauses. You state that as soon as I do damage to you, I am initiating a gunfight. That is inherently ruleplay. For example: I am a civilian and I run up to you, spit on you, punch you and stare at you. By your logic, I just initiated a gunfight because I punched you and you request a PK. There is no roleplay involving you arresting me, there is no you going "what the fuck is wrong with you?" You think: okay, he hit me, time to shoot! Seemingly a commonplace problem nowadays, but regardless you are more then welcome to open fire. The issue is of course that you died, therefore you don't wake up. Womp womp. About your other points: 1. You're watching the stream of the situation actively happening, that you were right there for. That is inherently metagame, if you are going to do that don't sit in a VC with the entire Army high command and various other persons. Kieran should know better to not do that as well. 2. I am roleplaying something, I tied up a random person and I state I'm MGD so I don't get harassed by people and I can bullshit my way out of something. Me declaring I am something is not powergame, what would be powergame would be me flashing a valid MGD badge and stating that I am MGD when I would've had no access to that material. This is simply just roleplay. 3. I sat there gunbashing you? You mean me pushing you back and then standing back on the door. I pushed you away from the door in roleplay, and you took that as me trying to kill you. I also made the comment regarding how you sound because you sounded like a retard.

Hi, so I genuinely don't know if you are slow or if you have a crater the size of mars on the back of your head. So, regardless of the fact of you blatantly metgaming (watching the stream of the situation) and your crosshair (something that you would only get from a certain client) you also cut out about 2-3 minutes of context. You were following us among other people and I had told them to get back. I had gun bashed when they didn't listen and eventually they pulled back. I am not gun bashing you to kill you, but you took it that way. That's fine and you're entirely in your right to take it that way, but you got immediately gunned down by your own guys. I also don't understand how someone saying "he won't wake up" also effects the validity of your PK. You tried entering the office, you were pushed back, you shot first, you died, the end. All the other people around me were not getting involved and or telling them to leave us alone, you acted alone and died alone. I don't like PK'ing people while I am on an alt character and actively avoid it, but this whole interaction with you lacked any roleplay whatsoever from your part on the account that you're talking like a black guy born in Harlem. I do apologize for handling your PK in a quick way, but you can understand the frustration of having anything you do result in you being immediately shot. I stand by your PK being entirely valid while lacking some formality.

I am replying to your appeal because I killed you, not because I am denying the appeal.

Hi, as I had explained to you in the Armed Forces discord I had PK'ed you based on the merit that you had talked behind my back. You are someone that I personally hired into an Intelligence faction and your actions directly reflect back on me. I hold anyone I personally hire into a faction to a higher metric due to what I am in my IC role. Additionally, it's been made clear to me by my superiors that the attitude of the Armed Forces needs to change. I thought you would make a good example and that is why I had requested a PK on you. I understand that you feel as though that there is "no proof" but you are an Enlisted and I am the Deputy-Chief of the Armed Forces and I had, LITERALLY, as soon as I walked away you two laughing between eachother and talking behind my back. So my argument is based off this: 1. I ensure the discipline of the Armed Forces, 2. I've been directly told to start fixing the Armed Forces acting like morons, 3. I hired you directly into an intelligence faction. My reply will be the same for you friend, I wish you the best of luck on a new character.

I don't like those kinds of people. -1.

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!

Hi. I explained this in Dm's to you about 6 times. You are warned about deleting your character. The fact that you immediately decided to delete your character before anything else is your fault. Next time, do not delete your character. Start anew.

What apart of my interaction with you was relevant? I said I was speaking to you? What does my Roleplay interaction have to do with you deciding to LTARP? I mean this whole paragraph is representative of why you shouldn't be given a reduction, and rather an extension. I also never accused you of saying that you mistakenly LTAP'ed, I don't know where you got that. You also have a one day long ban for LTARP, so yes you have PO's. I highly encourage you take the ban and have a couple weeks off. This will be my last response.