KaiserKrause

To whom it may concern, I am submitting this statement in my official capacity as Richterpräsident of the Interior Ministry, and as an active witness to the incident involving the detainment and PK of Major Bobb Pikeman, Deputy Chief of the Gendarmerie. I believe there are several key misunderstandings or misrepresentations that need to be addressed regarding the events that transpired, and I would ask those reviewing this appeal to consider the following facts—facts which I personally observed, and which are verifiably documented in a video clip that I have provided. At no point was the vehicle fully stopped. The staff car was in continuous motion—reversing and maneuvering—throughout the incident. No actual detainment took place. Neither myself nor Major Pikeman were pulled from the vehicle, ordered out with sufficient time to respond, nor physically restrained in any capacity. The "order to detain" was delivered casually by a general while he was actively disengaging from the situation and running away. It was not issued in a structured or deliberate manner that warranted immediate lethal escalation. Major Pikeman used voice radio to send a brief transmission—no longer than five words—stating “We’re being detained by the military.” This occurred simultaneously with the alleged “orders” not to use the radio, which were spammed in chat in rapid succession (twice, within a 5-second window). Only one military personnel was within 5 feet, a lieutenant armed with a pistol. The second, enlisted, was over 10 feet away and armed with an MP40. The term “surrounded” or “multiple guns pointed at you” has been used repeatedly, but is simply not reflected in reality. The notion that FearRP was fully established is incorrect. At no point were the vehicle’s occupants—two high-ranking members of the Interior Ministry—clearly stopped, surrounded, or given adequate opportunity to comply before force was used. If FearRP is to be upheld as a standard, it must be established in a reasonable, contextual way—not through rushed or half-formed orders followed immediately by gunfire. Furthermore, neither of us were ever cuffed or officially detained. The moment the radio transmission was made, gunfire erupted. The action was clearly premature, preventing any form of actual roleplay resolution. It is important to emphasize that position matters. Both myself (Richterpräsident) and Major Pikeman (Deputy Chief of the Gendarmerie) hold critical judicial and policing roles in the Innerministry. The precedent being set here—that two senior officials can be killed instantly without formal detainment, based on unclear orders—is deeply concerning and undermines the balance of roleplay between military and judicial structures. Lastly, while I will refrain from accusing anyone of bias directly, it is worth noting that all voices advocating for the PK are military-aligned, and the staff member who approved the PK request is also affiliated with the military. This is not an accusation, but it does represent a significant conflict of interest that should be acknowledged and addressed. This PK was neither handled with clarity nor in accordance with proper escalation protocol. The situation was rushed, over-aggressive, and failed to uphold the standards of immersive, fair, and balanced roleplay. I ask that this appeal be reviewed with the seriousness and impartiality it deserves, and that the footage—as placed below—be viewed in full context. https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kDB1AtlmfgFcNGOMh?invite=cr-MSxLS0MsNDE4MDg2NzQ5

Your response doesn’t align with the server’s FearRP rules or even your own submitted actions. Let’s clarify something critical: we were never pulled out of the vehicle. At the time of the “don’t radio” message, our car was actively reversing and still in motion. FearRP Rule #7 is explicit—FearRP does not apply to individuals inside a moving vehicle. The only time it does is when the vehicle is immobilized, the armed party is within five feet, and orders are clearly issued. None of that applied here. You claim the order to not radio came first—but again, I was in the car with Twister. The message was already being sent when your chat line appeared. There is no cancel function for typed radio—it sends once the Enter key is hit, and when it comes to radio via voice, that is even more perdinant. You did not give the minimum 10 seconds required by General Rule #2 and FearRP Rule #1. You issued one fast-scrolling line of text, while chat was active and cluttered, and fired less than five seconds later. That’s not FearRP—it’s an ambush. You also stated, and I quote, “you can get detained for no reason.” That is a direct violation of FearRP Rule #3, which requires that detainment and FearRP have valid justification. Claiming you don’t need one is openly admitting to powergaming. FearRP cannot be weaponized to force a kill without meeting the proper conditions, and this situation failed those conditions across the board. This was not a lawful detainment or a valid PK—it was a rapid escalation from a passive RP interaction into a rule-bending execution.

Hello! I was the Gericht member in vehicle with Twister, this is my response to what was stated above by nugget. I was inside the vehicle with Twister during the entire situation, and the PK of his character, Bobb Pikeman, was unjustified under multiple rules regarding FearRP, escalation, and lawful detainment. According to FearRP guidelines, detainment must be based on a valid in-character reason—none was provided. We were complying with an earlier order to leave when, suddenly, a vague command to “detain” was issued with no clear cause, and an officer in the military issued a rushed warning not to radio. While chat was active and overlapping, Twister sent a radio message about our detainment, which was already in progress when that order appeared. Within five seconds, we were fired upon. This violates General Rule #2 and FearRP Rule #1, which both require a visible warning and a minimum ten-second window to comply. We were inside a reversing vehicle, which further limits what could be interpreted as non-compliance—FearRP Rule #7 specifically says it only applies to immobilized vehicles with armed parties within five feet issuing direct orders. That was not the case here. There was no attempt to escalate through non-lethal means or to give us a fair chance to surrender—this was a direct jump from vague detainment to immediate execution, violating Killing Rules #1 and #10. The idea that “none of this matters for a PK” is incorrect—General Rule #18 makes clear that a PK must follow all server rules to be valid. If the FearRP itself was not properly established, the PK cannot stand. I am requesting that the PK be voided, Bobb Pikeman’s character be restored, and that clarification be issued stating that FearRP-based orders must be clearly delivered and followed by an adequate reaction window, especially when the subject is in a vehicle with limited ability to respond.

So, you In RP decided your character who is a member of a government faction dedicated to protection. Decided it was acceptable in RP to mug a member of another government faction whom is allied with you, for the sole reason of "in real life I don’t need to have a reason to rob a gas station people can do it because they can" this isn't real life. Its 1940's imperial Germany. You have to act as someone from that time as that is the point of this being ROLEPLAY. No you wouldn't mug a member of the kaisers personal guard as a decorated member of the party/states personal guard for no reason other than you can. it makes no sense for your character to want to do that in the servers setting. And under that pretense i could say "well the KG can just hold the counsel meeting under fear rp and take over the server because they wanted to" it doesn't work that way, and we use common sense in every rp situation we are in. when you said " you should understand that the last thing you wanna do is give him a reason to shoot and you screaming for help is that reason" there are hundreds of cases on this servers history of people screaming for help under fear rp and their captor shooting them and that being the end of it. You intentionally started the situation and proceeded to use that situation to PK a high ranking KG officer whom had done nothing to you. the fear RP should not be grounds for PK in this scenario. as you put your weapon away while he was tied which took him out of fear rp. what followed was not a fear rp kill but a RDM as you did not attempt to tell him to be quiet or stop yelling, which is a breach of fear rp rules "If you're holding someone under FearRP and are issuing them orders/warnings to not do something, and they disobey you, then you may kill them; however, it should not be your first choice of action. In this situation, one single warning/order will not suffice, multiple warnings in a very short time span will also not suffice, you must give them adequate time to react. When in game, you are actively a part of the roleplay, and therefore you must also be actively aware of your environment as well. Any excuses such as “I couldn’t hear them because my headset was turned off” will not be permitted. Outside elements of the game cannot be used as an excuse to avoid FearRP or being PK’d (i.e. being AFK)." you not issue any other order in the clip, you just shot him. as for the response that the place was secluded, " Secluded and non-public areas include; Alleys, dark corners, areas void of other players or abandoned buildings, you were in the KG compound, in the barracks with windows all around. and a guard was present outside the room. this is in no way a secluded place. it is a barracks that is full of members of a faction who can hear gunshots and commotions. also you being a member of staff, while i am not a member of staff on this server, i have been on others for years. Why would you who is meant to be dedicated to making the server function smoothly and cooperatively seek to cause chaos and pk players? Not that you can have a char and play the server but as staff you have responsibilities to uphold and causing major discourse in a faction does not seem like one of them. Why would you swap to staff char after being in a serious rp situation? you don't know if there were other members that you didn't see and they could have seen exactly what you looked like and what you did. almost like you're tring to hide from what you did as its not acceptable in any scenario.

Good evening/morning, giving context as tank did above me, Lange is my deputy. The situation from both parties was a clusterfuck to say the least, Lange is new to the game mode and some of the rules that follow. So it is difficult to truly say who was at fault, KSD for intentionally going into the KG base with the sole intent to bait an officer into getting alone in a room to mug them? or KG for chasing and attempting to detain a guy who in their mind RDM'ed them? I would personally say this falls on both parties, what took place shouldn't have happened in the first place and the escalation to detainment and PKing someone whom you shot twice was unnecessary and an act of complete disregard to the fact this is a server based around ROLEPLAY and the KSD would have 0 reason to mug or kill kaisergrade. Was lange a dumbass? Yes. but does he deserve to be PKed? No. on the fact that he hasn't been able to fully grasp the rules and couldn't truly understand the situation he was in RP wise. As for the KSD, lying to enter a compound on the pretense of a transfer is one thing. but going out of your way on a powergame against someone whom you have no legitimate RP knowledge or information on aside from the fact you lied to them and then shot them for no legitimate in RP reason. in terms of rules broken. Lange did yell for help which is technically a breach of fear rp but ANY player on this server regardless of rank, position or experience would call for the help of a guard/compatriot if they were outside the door or nearby if their life was in danger. It is a natural response to fearing for you life to call for help. As for the KSD, he lacked any real rp reason to go to the KG base and "mug" lange. he was by himself, and was seeking to kill someone whom his character has no information on. he shot all the KG present and that should have been the end of it. He disregarded his life when he enter the KG base with the intent to mug or kill someone without reason. +1 not because i have a connection to lange, but due to the fact both parties acted completely braindead in both situations and not how they're characters would act in a real RP scenario. A void on the situation would in my opinion be a more acceptable route.