Skips

there wasnt really a massive gunfight when the chiefinspektor pointed his weapon at me i hit him twice he then died and a nsb member shot me. as for acting agressively. I was the only member to react in this manor because he is my superior and there werent really any infantry around aside from one other guy who was standing behind everyone not really interacting with the situation. there were panzers attached to flynburg who dont care for the infantry chief because theyve ignored all of their duties for the past few days to protect flynburg. with this meaning I was the only person around to defend him in this sort of manner. there were some men who after the chaos took advantage and ended up breaking him out of cuffs

It is very arguable that I responded with equivalent force in this situation. Yes I in character acted irrationally because the person I was guarding got a gun shoved in his face and then I had a gun pointed at my face. However you also acted irrationally by yelling over your superior taking matters into your own hands not on any orders to do so. the simple fact of the matter is if you decided to let your general talk with my Commander and the other general none of this would have even happened in the first place. I was promted to react in the way I did on the sole fact that you pulled a weapon out and in the clip you notice that once you make that one singular threat chaos erupts and everyone starts yelling. You are the one to escalte things and in this scene I was not going to let you take my superior at gunpoint. You were acting on some sort of emotion because you couldnt keep a cool head while your superior was talking and instead chose to scream over him and just try and tie up my officer. You then acted on emotion by banning me because I killed you when you pointed a gun right at me. Even if I had escalted things even more the main issue with this is that you were an active threat by shoving a gun in my face and saying you were gonna detain me this in no way is rdm at all you wanted to arrest me and you got killed for it nobody else died because nobody was else was pointing a gun at me it was only you.

The man you were serving the warrant on was my direct superior, additionally the general was telling you to not point guns at him and the only time i struck you consecutively was when u started pointing a gun at me. When The man you were trying to take started to argue the PCO you cut him off and just pointed your gun at him avoiding the argument entirely and just trying to run off with him. me recognizing thats what was going on tried to put a stop to it. you didnt care at all what he had to say and tried to quickly shut him up with violence so it wouldnt be shocking if his men responded with violence in return.

Your Name: Skips SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:0:526256772 Appeal Type (Apology or Dispute): dispute Which staff member banned you?: momsmom How long is your ban for?: 1 week Why were you banned?: rdm Why do you deserve to be unbanned?: while the NSB were attempting to serve a PCO that was being argued they had claimed they would be taking my CO under gunpoint in which i told them that would not be happening they then start pointing guns at him in which I respond by hitting and pointing my gun back they then one of them (momsmom) turns his attention to me pointing his gun right at me and me responding by bashing him over the head with my gun killing him in the process. A gunfight starts and then I am banned for a week for RDM. In no way possible did I RDM the NSB officer he quite literally pointed a gun at me and tried to detain me while i was also pointing a weapon at him it makes absolutely no sense in where they are straight up threatening everyone at gunpoint and pointing their weapons at people that they dont get killed this is just blatantly a false ban. Additional Information:

Character's name & rank: Unterfeldwebel Thorfinn Snoreson SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:0:526256772 Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Arrow Explain why you were PK'd: breaking fear rp Why should you be un-PK'd?: During my pk the oberst (Arrow) yells ooc terms saying that "im just gonna pk you now" in most situations pks are voided because when you start breaking character the entire rp scenario becomes null and void because you are bringing ooc terms into a in character situation. This makes the rp scenario very low quality and questionable. Another reason this should not be a full pk was the fact that my realistic odds werent terrible with me having in mp40 and the 2 guys with pistols and that slow to react grenadier i had already had my mp40 out before any guns were being pointed at me so it couldnt be seen as a total fear rp pk. I was not pulled into a sit and explained anything i was simply pkd while walking around and makes me wonder if this pk was handled properly and professionally. I feel as if a staff member should know better not to break character in these types of situations. Furthermore i would like to call into question the person who requested the pk had been targeting me all day earlier he had arrested me simply for walking into him and there was no in character reason to arrest me which makes me feel as if this pk was requested based on ooc animosity towards me. All in all i feel that this pk was handled very sloppily and at most i should have gotten an ooc demotion or a name pk. Additional Information: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lyXRGvGZQcxJJKmyk?invite=cr-MSxnNDYsMjI4NzQzMDM&v=30 - my clip - arrows clip

i type in all lowercase cuz i never cap

Your Name: skips SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:0:526256772 Appeal Type (Apology or Dispute): apology Which staff member banned you?: hound How long is your ban for?: perma Why were you banned?: clapped whoreson on chiv Why do you deserve to be unbanned?: uhh my fault pimp can i be unbanned please i retired from chiv 2 Additional Information:

in certain situations last resorts aren't always necessary the guidelines are not absolute you were a primary suspect in a coup and so you were shot like a dog not given a fair chance to defend yourself because again a member of my command staff went missing as a direct result of this attempt. you committed a grave offense against the entire faction and that is why you were killed

you were pointed out as one of the key members during this situation in which one of my command members went missing as a direct result multiple peoeple stepped forward and identiefied you, jim gordon, and rudolph, rudolph was killed by the nsb for breaking fear rp so he did infact die aswell just not in the same way you did

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Hi I was there when you died. you did not break fear rp on one occassion but twice if you valued your character you shouldnt have broke fear rp when 15+ people pointed guns at you and told you to stop https://medal.tv/?contentId=iroh46wv4vZHrqDVE&invite=cr-MSxSbEksMjQ4NTAzMjQs&spok=d1337N0Jw7PP

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first of all I was not prosecuted there was no court trial you sound very misleading. You are also interpreting another's reasoning behind detaining you as an excuse, claiming that you did nothing wrong when in fact you did is also misleading, you have no idea his intentions you are not a mind reader and neither am I which is why I helped him. You have continued to say that these trustworthy individuals identified me at times when I wasn't online so that must mean they are not all that trustworthy. As for the innenminister shooting me well that has nothing to do with anything involving the situation with you, I was explaining how its impossible at any time that I was there for the situation with the Admiral and you in character had no idea about that so no reason for you to bring it up. You can't seem to get it straight whether I had more than one opportunity as in your reply before this one you said I had multiple now you are saying you gave me one. There was no effective way to roleplay up to your standard because you are pinning roleplay onto me that I wasn't there for and when Told to give up my accomplices I responded with confusion and you said well that's that then never said a word to me again. John Marlow is not the only officer in the infantry and he certainly isn't my direct superior. If memory serves me correctly The deputy of the 5th brigade along with the chief were on and if the infantry chief was on that would have been the person to go to if not the deputy or the general. My own department outing me as a deserter is pretty damming evidence not the people who you think are trustworthy and just because you think they are doesn't mean they actually are. And again it was not an arrest you were at no point in anyone's custody or in a cell you were momentarily detained for violating the law and you were given clemency by the feldmarschal I'm gonna have to agree that replies are getting repetitive so Until any evidence or something new is brought to light I will not be responding

So being put in cuffs for 2 minutes is not being taken into custody that is what being detained is. The detainment which you claim is an arrest was not infact illegal because you were out of uniform which in some cases charges could be brought up however the feldmarschal showed leniency and allowed you with the help of myself and an army officer to assist you in correct it. I was not taunting you It may have came off to you that way since you were mad you got thrown in cuffs over it but that's just your opinion. Obviously there wasn't much haste to rectify much because I was told directly by the feldmarschall to get in position for the wargame. And again I wasn't on this character throughout the day so how could I be apart of his gang? The gunfight that was started while the dupe was being set up was because a member of the heer had smacked one of the innenministers guards with his weapon and the guard started opening fire on him and the rest goes down as every gunfight between opposing factions goes down. After I died I ran back to the hangar where the innenminister and kaiser garde were all leaving where I made sure they were escorted out until the innenminister shot me. After this I respawned joined the line and waited for a bit when I started a conversation with some members of the luftwaffe until the feldmarschall yelled at me to go get set up for the wargame. There was never a moment at all in the hangars where I interacted with the Admiral. I can assume when he was leaded away is when all of his men withdrawled from the wargame and it only was with infantry and luftwaffe at this point in which I was participating in so I definetly was at no time trying to lure him away from everyone I was participating in the wargame every round. John Marlow as Thone mentioned above in his reply and his group committed crimes that would absolutely get him and the people that he did them with killed. The problem is that I did not commit those crimes. You keep saying that I was identified as a member of their group well there is no hardcore evidence that I am with them other than the word of mouth from high ranks all in cahoots with each other. You essentially had me killed because I was guilty by association When I infact barely associated with them and killing someone off of assosciation and assumptions is just simply lazy and does not abide by the pk guidelines due you not even 5 minutes into arresting me you had me against a pole calling staff already. My execution was not the last resort it was the first, When I said there was no way for me to get off that pole I meant to say there was nothing I could say to get off that pole. You wanted me to tell you about all of the events and the people when I didn't even know them. I couldn't have even told you their names let alone what They did. You are lying about giving me opportunities and you never even told me what I was arrested for. Again you are claiming I'm lying but haven't show any proof. Someone being trustworthy isn't grounds for a pk, to my knowledge you need damning evidence and testimony from people closely assosciated with that person none of that was given. In your replies you haven't referenced any eyewitness accounts from my own leadership just other departments that have the same aligned belief that I was apart of that group. Why did you not seek out my commanding officers or since you are so bold to mention the generals why did you not have my general identify me among these men. He was in the hangar when everything was going on and I was quite literally fighting right next to him during the wargame. You should have sought my leadership out instead of instantly taking me out back to get shot to actually get real testimonies and witness statements instead of getting a yeah he was there from everyone in the room behind barricades with mp40s and machine guns pointed at the door.

You were not taken into nobodies custody you were caught with a infantry uniform on put in cuffs for maybe 30 seconds then untied to fix it. I was there helping you with it ensuring you being the feldjaeger I talked about was as squared away as possible even. I find it odd how when you tried to arrest John Marlow you were stopped in your tracks by the Feldmarschall but when you got throwin in cuffs for actually doing something wrong nothing was said which clearly means we were simply doing our duty as a fellow soldier. God forbid one of your superiors caught you posing as a member of the infantry. And then you go on to say that others were trying to lure the Admiral and you claim thats the commotion I heard. After I got finished with you I stood in line for a bit and shortly after we had commenced the set up for the wargame. You also are still attempting to lump me in this group of people who committed all these crimes way before I got on my character. I would like you to specify what earlier events because again I wasn't here for the events the Admiral was talking about. If you are going for a grenadier who assisted his superiors with a uniform mandate breaking feldjaeger then I would need to call into question your thought process on executing me for that. You were in the front and loudest and usually people will just simply agree to whoever is being the loudest. I mean if I was hiding away in a room with a bunch of other people I would assume those people hiding with me are gonna back up what I say and that is exactly what happened. During my arrest I was asked only 1 question from the feldmarschall, and it was at the very moment I was arrested and he asked me did I really do this? And obviously I swore up and down that It wasn't me. But again it was a room full of the same people with the same intentions who will all agree to the exact same thing regardless. I was then rushed to a pole outside to be shot where I was told to give up my partners in crime. My response to that was what are you talking about because I in fact was clueless. How could I tell you stuff about people or the nature of their crimes if I was never there for it. I was actually speaking out a lot, pleading for you to explain yourselves, show me evidence, what is going on? None of you responded to me and all someone said to me was shut up. It was already made up in your minds that you were just gonna shoot me because within 5 minutes of me being arrested i was leaning against a pole. there is not much a dying man has to say about a situation he knows nothing about. I cannot convey my innocence to people failing to safety there weapons before the command is even given to take them off safety. I was actually in fact not a stones throw away from the kaiser Garde base sure I ran past it but I was actually apprehended the second time by the fishing pond and I continued to demand the things I stated above and was either ignored or told to shut up. I feel as if you are making up the fact I was roleplaying a below standard quality when you yourself said one thing then never again said anything. Nobody talked to me at all other than maybe saying shut up or insulting me. Well you said it yourself "I may not have been involved" which logs will back this up. I would like to know exactly where I lied under this appeal, I want proof of the stonewalling and low quality roleplay not you just making shit up. And I want to know how I was supposed to get off a pole where people were already taking aim to fire and the admiral reminding them of the commands to go by. It was impossible to get taken off of that pole because you the ring leader said one thing to me you failed to roleplay this out and instead you were just hell bent on killing me and moving on to the next unfortunate soul that did you wrong. There was absolutely no opportunities given and when I asked about the situation you said well that was your final chance as if I was given any others in which I was not.