I am finished with this server if we are bending rules, rules are rules for a reason and the people broke several.

[mgce444]

Your Name: Alfeo Angelotti
SteamID32: 76561199634477157

Staff Member's Name(s): coffee
Staff Member's SteamID32(s): unknown

Rules Broken / Conduct issues (Provide evidence for each):  Bending rules, PK, NLR, and one of the perpetrators had "real gangstas move in silence like lasagna LIL Wayne" in his description clearly minge chars, he even threw up the kaiser hot key in the middle of the sit, he was not brand new, its their responsibility to know the rules when they play the game. inconsistency is a prevalent issue in this server. I became a donator yesterday and now i fully regret it.

Evidence (Videos/Screenshots): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jU41hHNTXm6oouAp0?invite=cr-MSxDd20sMzMyNjc5NDg5LA

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jU4K2EnvhgOFOzoeV?invite=cr-MSwyTUosMzMyNjc5NDg5LA

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jU3F8ZFDQ8cep3MLH?invite=cr-MSxjRUYsMzMyNjc5NDg5LA

Additional Information: This whole thing started because of the last clip on the list, I was teaching a brand-new guy the ropes, and we got mugged, Luckly a fellow KG member came to save me and the guy I was teaching. Coffee claimed that UA had had a discussion about "taking it easy" on people who don't know the rules, which to me is laughable because the context from the clips show that they are not new, and even if they were that doesn't exempt them from rules.( side note: if blanket rule exemptions are being put in place, they should be listed somewhere) As stated previously it is us 'Gamers" to take it upon ourselves to learn the rules, it's not that hard, the list isn't that long, quick read while taking a shit is all it takes. I was very upset in the clips, if you knew the context it would likely make you more understanding of my frustration, I've generated over a million since joining in the past 9 or so days, and I currently have 100k. I get robbed by mugging/minge chars every single day, usually more than once a day. There's simply no way to avoid it because the rules are so much in muggers favor, they camp shipments, they door kick every door until they find you, they target you when they know that you grind, and this isn't mugging RP, it is imperial Germany RP. TLDR: minge chars getting a "verbal warning" and not even a "note" is ridiculous to me and shows a lack of respect for the rules and the server as a whole.

[Mangoes]

You are a complete crybaby that makes requests every 5 minutes for completely trivial matters. You allow staff to contextualise situations until it is against you then you throw a hissyfit. You waste every staff members time and genuinely drain their energy with your insolence and childlike behaviour, I saw that Coffee was very generous in his behaviour towards you despite your snarky comments and you ended up agreeing with him to now just write this piece. If all you are here to do is to fish for something to complain about then this is community is not for you.

[ItzTreywayyツ]

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[mgce444]

the server is full of minges and mug chars, I am doing my best to curb that by reporting rule breaks. If that is not something you are interested in dealing with that is fine, but it sounds like staff may not be for you. Name calling is uncalled for, and shows that there very well may be a staff problem. Coffee was very generous to me? hm wonder in what shape way or form. I also find it interesting that you chose to leave out the context of me apologizing for my frustration and outburst, which was nothing more than a high tension discussion. I have nothing to "Fish" for i simply want the server to abide by its own rules. 

Id like to add, that this was the first time in any of my staff sits that i have had any level of argumentative behavior.

 

Edited March 18 by mgce444
quick addition

[mgce444]

Glad to see all the staff not taking me seriously based on the reactions to my post, this is who's running your circus whoreson.

[Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD]

This is a big overreaction from you, why go out of your way to try to pk some dudes cause they suck at muggings.

 

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[mgce444]

Just now, Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD said:

This is a big overreaction from you, why go out of your way to try to pk some dudes cause they suck at muggings.

 

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Because everyone should be held to the same standard, they broke multiple rules, the PK wasn't even performed by me, I can count on 1 hand how many people I have gunned down in the server and it was during my time as police while defending my superior. I have mugged no one, and I have been mugged roughly 20 times since I joined the server 9 or 10 days ago, mugging chars are against the rules and if they also suck at it, then they deserve what's coming to them i.e. appropriate punishment consistent with the rules.

[Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD]

Just now, mgce444 said:

Because everyone should be held to the same standard, they broke multiple rules, the PK wasn't even performed by me, I can count on 1 hand how many people I have gunned down in the server and it was during my time as police while defending my superior. I have mugged no one, and I have been mugged roughly 20 times since I joined the server 9 or 10 days ago, mugging chars are against the rules and if they also suck at it, then they deserve what's coming to them i.e. appropriate punishment consistent with the rules.

i will tell you this, i was a HUUUUUUUUGE rule breaker couple of years ago, and i learned from the punishments i was given and they were pretty light. The fact is you should not pk someones char cause they suck at the game. they lost there guns they had during the muggings. Live and let live man and i think you should calm down before you say something dumb.

[mgce444]

Everyone here wants to berate me, but no one has invalidated a single point I've made. You have attacked my character, and been trying to glaze Coffee to get your up doots from him. I have made a valid claim and I would appreciate it if we could act like adults about this.

I would like to reiterate that these people were minge chars to begin with, his description alone should have also been addressed.

Edited March 18 by mgce444
2nd point

[mgce444]

1 minute ago, Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD said:

i will tell you this, i was a HUUUUUUUUGE rule breaker couple of years ago, and i learned from the punishments i was given and they were pretty light. The fact is you should not pk someones char cause they suck at the game. they lost there guns they had during the muggings. Live and let live man and i think you should calm down before you say something dumb.

I am clearly calm, and as previously stated, I even apologized to coffee for my "less than kind demeanor" in our sit.

[Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD]

Just now, mgce444 said:

I am clearly calm, and as previously stated, I even apologized to coffee for my "less than kind demeanor" in our sit.

ok so you just ignored the first parts of my message, idc if you are calm now, you need to realize that you are basically gonna fuck over some random guys fun just becuase they suck at the game. As a wise man once said

[mgce444]

Just now, Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD said:

ok so you just ignored the first parts of my message, idc if you are calm now, you need to realize that you are basically gonna fuck over some random guys fun just becuase they suck at the game. As a wise man once said

I did not ignore it, it was simply irrelevant, and at this point I don't care about the guys that got away, I'm upset that coffee of all people wanted to bend rules in an egregious fashion. I have been calm since coffee pulled me for a staff sit, when I apologized, I was "mad" for all of 5 minutes.

[Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD]

Just now, mgce444 said:

I did not ignore it, it was simply irrelevant, and at this point I don't care about the guys that got away, I'm upset that coffee of all people wanted to bend rules in an egregious fashion. I have been calm since coffee pulled me for a staff sit, when I apologized, I was "mad" for all of 5 minutes.

Dude its not this deep, just becuase an admin wont be tough does not mean they suck at what they do. Just let it go and save your breath. These guys will probably not even interact with you in the next couple of days or even remember this experience, Live and let live.

[Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD]

11 minutes ago, mgce444 said:

Everyone here wants to berate me, but no one has invalidated a single point I've made. You have attacked my character, and been trying to glaze Coffee to get your up doots from him. I have made a valid claim and I would appreciate it if we could act like adults about this.

I would like to reiterate that these people were minge chars to begin with, his description alone should have also been addressed.

you did the exact same thing and tried to glaze coffee to make yourself look better, and dude a desc is a desc. It is not this deep

[Valorant]

I have been present for most of the situations you've been involved in, and for those I haven't directly witnessed, you've provided me with detailed recounts including medal clips which were provided during the sit. Because of this, I feel I can speak on this matter with understanding. Since you joined, I have supported you—so don't take this as me complaining about you, but because I genuinely appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to learn. However, despite your ambition, your became a concern for the staff team. So I will tell you now as someone who wants to help, you need to think the following over with this report.

What rule has Coffee broken, or in what way has he been unprofessional?

Coffee did not abuse his administrative powers, and he did not act unprofessionally at any point. Actually, he remained respectful, repeatedly explained his reasoning, and gave you more time than many others would. Disagreeing with his decision is not, in itself, grounds for a report. If you wish to pursue this route, I must ask—on what basis are you challenging him beyond simply disliking the ruling (especially when you had literally stated in the sit that you had no issues with him and he always kept things objective)? 

Why did Coffee rule against you?

Coffee did not, and would not, make his decision arbitrarily in favor of rule-breakers. You should know this and I ask that you try to consider his point of view, which he stated to you: His ruling aligns with Upper Administration, who have meet and decided to allows civilian greater flexibility with PKs to promote roleplay continuity. Killing should always be a last resort, even for civilians. In this particular instance, the mugger in question received a verbal warning rather than an immediate PK because they are new, and a permanent removal from the roleplay over one unfortunate event would be excessive and harmful to everyone who he could have roleplayed with.

Why are staff becoming exasperated?

We understand that players will encounter issues and seek staff assistance—that is our role and we are happy to fill it. But when every time a staff member logs in they are met with yet another ticket concerning you, and multiple staff members describe your behavior as overly persistent, clingy, or confrontational, it becomes a problem. You have admitted to mini-moding but this approach is not constructive for anyone. While making tickets is completely fine, excessive complaints, continuous direct messages to multiple staff members, and now public grievances in global OOC create unnecessary tension for all involved.

The issue that led to your latest complaint was not even directly related to you either—you are advocating on behalf of someone who, notably, has not raised any concerns themselves. You speak as though reading the rules makes you a scholar on them, yet experienced staff who have worked under these same guidelines for years are telling you otherwise. It is frustrating for those who maintain professionalism while you appear unwilling to truly listen.

What should you do?

You are still new, and it is natural to believe you can grasp everything quickly. I understand that impulse personally, I really do. However, even after playing since 2022, I still encounter challenges with the rules, game mechanics, and roleplay dynamics. When I seek clarification, I respect that the person providing guidance has more experience and is not acting in bad faith, and so I listen.

If I were in your position, I would take the following steps:

• Have a one-on-one conversation with Coffee. Ask him to explain the rules as they have functioned in the past, and truly listen—his experience is gold.
• File tickets when you need, but accept resolutions once they are given. If an issue remains unclear, seek mediation from another staff member, but only if professionalism or clarity is lacking.
• Engage with the roleplay beyond just grinding for money. You have focused almost entirely on drug profits rather than immersing yourself in your job, comrades, or the broader server dynamics. Roleplay as a real soldier stationed at a real military base for example— drugs are meant to serve roleplay, not replace it.
• Stay in your lane. If an issue directly affects you, make a ticket. Otherwise, refrain from using global OOC, voice chat, or direct messages as your first resort.

I hope you take this to heart because I see great ambition in you, and I would hate for you to sabotage your own experience by fostering the belief that staff are against you. You have potential and I hope you don't let your fantasy that staff is after you turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Layheeee]

To start with @mgce444I've been interacting with you and taking your sit very frequently in the past week and have come to interact with you a lot. I was also one of the staff members that had witnessed your sit with @Coffeein this interaction you reported. I'd like to go over a few things as I think I'm an unbiased 3rd party that can reiterate some points to you.

 

Firstly, Why they weren't PK'd - 

There were several points of contempt as to why they were not PK'd. being you used OOC language while interacting in the IC environment VOIDing any PK' which is standard practice by the staff team. Something that was already explained to you was also the leniency that has been enacted on the civilian faction, if a civilian player gets killed after making a criminal action or breaks a PK guideline there may be some leniency given depending on the situation. Sometimes this is because of the duration of the interaction not being long enough or the actual RP not being clear enough for the players to discern a clear PK. You need to come to terms with the fact that the civilian faction shouldn't be held and is not being held to the same standards as a government faction, this is to encourage people to play as civilians and not immediately discourage them after making one mistake. There is a reason why when you are in a faction you are held to a higher standard in the government faction and this has been precisely outlined by the UA team that meets every week.

Secondly, The Donation Issue -

The Webster Dictionary definition of a donation is "a gift of money or its equivalent to a charity, humanitarian cause, or public institution" You need to reflect on what choice you made in giving your money to the server. There was no expectation of a return of value yet the Prometheus so graciously grants us extra privileges when we donate, these are not owed to us because we donated. We are not owed anything from the server for donation. It's as simple as understanding you are choosing to show a token of your appreciation and financially support what charity you are donating to. But when you come complaining about your regret about a "donation" it shows the shallow way you donated your money. It reflects poorly on you as someone who can be mature enough to not have a nasty expectation of how you perceive the world should operate. It reflects on you that you quickly bought into something where you aren't even willing to assimilate entirely with the system.

 

Lastly, The Conclusion -

Personal attacks will not be tolerated because you did not get your perceived correct outcome. @Coffeelike you said only minutes before filing this complaint is one of the fairest and patient staff members on the entire team. Working tirelessly every day (Including in the linked evidence) to explain professionally the rules and break down how to understand them and conjunctively apply them to RP situations. He took the time to explain the complete interworkings of how the situation did not condone a PK. You need to listen more closely to what he's saying instead of getting frustrated he's not saying what you want him too because it shows your not willing to assimilate or listen to staff ruling.  Your self was claiming how fair and just @Coffeeyet you wrap around and bite the hand that spent 2 hours trying to help you today. 

- my grievances -

I believe this is a compound issue from you being mugged repeatedly and losing money to the issue with the turbocharger not being properly working and now you're taking it out on the last person you interacted with. you need a break.

[mgce444]

4 minutes ago, Valorant said:

I have been present for most of the situations you've been involved in, and for those I haven't directly witnessed, you've provided me with detailed recounts including medal clips which were provided during the sit. Because of this, I feel I can speak on this matter with understanding. Since you joined, I have supported you—so don't take this as me complaining about you, but because I genuinely appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to learn. However, despite your ambition, your became a concern for the staff team. So I will tell you now as someone who wants to help, you need to think the following over with this report.

What rule has Coffee broken, or in what way has he been unprofessional?

Coffee did not abuse his administrative powers, and he did not act unprofessionally at any point. Actually, he remained respectful, repeatedly explained his reasoning, and gave you more time than many others would. Disagreeing with his decision is not, in itself, grounds for a report. If you wish to pursue this route, I must ask—on what basis are you challenging him beyond simply disliking the ruling (especially when you had literally stated in the sit that you had no issues with him and he always kept things objective)? 

Why did Coffee rule against you?

Coffee did not, and would not, make his decision arbitrarily in favor of rule-breakers. You should know this and I ask that you try to consider his point of view, which he stated to you: His ruling aligns with Upper Administration, who have meet and decided to allows civilian greater flexibility with PKs to promote roleplay continuity. Killing should always be a last resort, even for civilians. In this particular instance, the mugger in question received a verbal warning rather than an immediate PK because they are new, and a permanent removal from the roleplay over one unfortunate event would be excessive and harmful to everyone who he could have roleplayed with.

Why are staff becoming exasperated?

We understand that players will encounter issues and seek staff assistance—that is our role and we are happy to fill it. But when every time a staff member logs in they are met with yet another ticket concerning you, and multiple staff members describe your behavior as overly persistent, clingy, or confrontational, it becomes a problem. You have admitted to mini-moding but this approach is not constructive for anyone. While making tickets is completely fine, excessive complaints, continuous direct messages to multiple staff members, and now public grievances in global OOC create unnecessary tension for all involved.

The issue that led to your latest complaint was not even directly related to you either—you are advocating on behalf of someone who, notably, has not raised any concerns themselves. You speak as though reading the rules makes you a scholar on them, yet experienced staff who have worked under these same guidelines for years are telling you otherwise. It is frustrating for those who maintain professionalism while you appear unwilling to truly listen.

What should you do?

You are still new, and it is natural to believe you can grasp everything quickly. I understand that impulse personally, I really do. However, even after playing since 2022, I still encounter challenges with the rules, game mechanics, and roleplay dynamics. When I seek clarification, I respect that the person providing guidance has more experience and is not acting in bad faith, and so I listen.

If I were in your position, I would take the following steps:

• Have a one-on-one conversation with Coffee. Ask him to explain the rules as they have functioned in the past, and truly listen—his experience is gold.
• File tickets when you need, but accept resolutions once they are given. If an issue remains unclear, seek mediation from another staff member, but only if professionalism or clarity is lacking.
• Engage with the roleplay beyond just grinding for money. You have focused almost entirely on drug profits rather than immersing yourself in your job, comrades, or the broader server dynamics. Roleplay as a real soldier stationed at a real military base for example— drugs are meant to serve roleplay, not replace it.
• Stay in your lane. If an issue directly affects you, make a ticket. Otherwise, refrain from using global OOC, voice chat, or direct messages as your first resort.

I hope you take this to heart because I see great ambition in you, and I would hate for you to sabotage your own experience by fostering the belief that staff are against you. You have potential and I hope you don't let your fantasy that staff is after you turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

well god damn it val, you've done it again, you really have a way of explaining things. Furthermore, i agree with you at this point, this matter is considered closed.

 

[mgce444]

1 minute ago, Layheeee said:

To start with @mgce444I've been interacting with you and taking your sit very frequently in the past week and have come to interact with you a lot. I was also one of the staff members that had witnessed your sit with @Coffeein this interaction you reported. I'd like to go over a few things as I think I'm an unbiased 3rd party that can reiterate some points to you.

 

Firstly, Why they weren't PK'd - 

There were several points of contempt as to why they were not PK'd. being you used OOC language while interacting in the IC environment VOIDing any PK' which is standard practice by the staff team. Something that was already explained to you was also the leniency that has been enacted on the civilian faction, if a civilian player gets killed after making a criminal action or breaks a PK guideline there may be some leniency given depending on the situation. Sometimes this is because of the duration of the interaction not being long enough or the actual RP not being clear enough for the players to discern a clear PK. You need to come to terms with the fact that the civilian faction shouldn't be held and is not being held to the same standards as a government faction, this is to encourage people to play as civilians and not immediately discourage them after making one mistake. There is a reason why when you are in a faction you are held to a higher standard in the government faction and this has been precisely outlined by the UA team that meets every week.

Secondly, The Donation Issue -

The Webster Dictionary definition of a donation is "a gift of money or its equivalent to a charity, humanitarian cause, or public institution" You need to reflect on what choice you made in giving your money to the server. There was no expectation of a return of value yet the Prometheus so graciously grants us extra privileges when we donate, these are not owed to us because we donated. We are not owed anything from the server for donation. It's as simple as understanding you are choosing to show a token of your appreciation and financially support what charity you are donating to. But when you come complaining about your regret about a "donation" it shows the shallow way you donated your money. It reflects poorly on you as someone who can be mature enough to not have a nasty expectation of how you perceive the world should operate. It reflects on you that you quickly bought into something where you aren't even willing to assimilate entirely with the system.

 

Lastly, The Conclusion -

Personal attacks will not be tolerated because you did not get your perceived correct outcome. @Coffeelike you said only minutes before filing this complaint is one of the fairest and patient staff members on the entire team. Working tirelessly every day (Including in the linked evidence) to explain professionally the rules and break down how to understand them and conjunctively apply them to RP situations. He took the time to explain the complete interworkings of how the situation did not condone a PK. You need to listen more closely to what he's saying instead of getting frustrated he's not saying what you want him too because it shows your not willing to assimilate or listen to staff ruling.  Your self was claiming how fair and just @Coffeeyet you wrap around and bite the hand that spent 2 hours trying to help you today. 

- my grievances -

I believe this is a compound issue from you being mugged repeatedly and losing money to the issue with the turbocharger not being properly working and now you're taking it out on the last person you interacted with. you need a break.

you're good layhee, val just laid it out nice and well for me, but you've done good work as well. Mangos was ragebaiting up there though high key.

 

[Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD]

well this was a waste of time lol

[mgce444]

1 minute ago, Dr Trevor Lawrence PHD said:

well this was a waste of time lol

Shit man, at the end of the day, I am reasonable and I am human, I made a mistake by doing all this, and I would like to formerly apologize to everyone involved especially coffee, this was unwarranted and I should have left it at the staff sit.

[Layheeee]

1 minute ago, mgce444 said:

Shit man, at the end of the day, I am reasonable and I am human, I made a mistake by doing all this, and I would like to formerly apologize to everyone involved especially coffee, this was unwarranted and I should have left it at the staff sit.

thank you for apologizing, I ended up losing all the time I had to RP with @Coffeebecause of this situation. which I was looking forward too. be careful you can sometimes hurt the people who work so hard to help you.

[mgce444]

16 minutes ago, Layheeee said:

thank you for apologizing, I ended up losing all the time I had to RP with @Coffeebecause of this situation. which I was looking forward too. be careful you can sometimes hurt the people who work so hard to help you.

Dude and real shit, I speak so highly of Coffee, val could probably corroborate that as well, sorry for the crash out, layhee was also correct in his presumption "I believe this is a compound issue from you being mugged repeatedly and losing money to the issue with the turbocharger not being properly working and now you're taking it out on the last person you interacted with." This was in large part due to me being mugged so often and even by the same people twice a day otherwise being mugged twice a day by randoms, along with the losses from the turbo charger, and the lawyer fee of 200k. I would like to add, that this situation that i got mugged in happened becasue i was trying to help a new player showing him the black market, telling him about different avenues in which he could go for his life in germany,etc., which is something that i consistently do aside from processing drugs and the small about of other RP. I plan on focusing less on the processing and more on RP. Not to get tooooooo personal, but im actually going through a really difficult time just in my personal life, divorce, family death, and new medications. So that is also why I was so pressed. Not to dismiss my behavior, it was just context that i felt i should add.

Edited March 18 by mgce444
added context

[Hound]

Seems like this solved itself...

Closed.

[Major Whoreson]

Pathetic.