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Character's name & rank:

Stabsgefreiter Lucian Drakos

SteamID: 

STEAM_0:0:177693302

Staff member who issued the PK: 

Ich Bin

Explain why you were PK'd: 

UA Approval

Why should you be un-PK'd?: 

I, a Stabsgefreiter in the Feldjagers, patrolled the ICC when I spotted a Stabsfeldwebel of the Kaisergarde talking with two Commissioned Officers. I approached, waited for gap in the conversation, and addressed; "Stabsfeldwebel". I was ignored. I repeated it few times, and when he eventually looked at me, I asked "Why are you here?" He then looked away and said "Anyway". I ended up threatening to detain him if he refused to answer my questions, since he was trespassing and I needed to know if he was authorised to be there or not. He continued with the prideful rejection and so I detained him and brought him to the cells, and called for a CO of the KG to come and retrieve their man.

When the Order Marshal arrived, I escorted him in and brought him to the Stabsfeldwebel, allowing them to speak privately in the cell as he requested, out of courtesy to his rank. I also allowed his guards in the room. After a few minutes of discussing with the Stabsfeldwebel, he removed his man's cuffs and walked out, ordering that I be placed under arrest for "Disrespecting" their Stabsfeldwebel. I was dragged out of the ICC, gagged, and thrown into the back of a car and taken to the Lichterfelde. When we arrived in an office, I had the gag removed and LARP-y sputtered out gasps for air and said "Oh my God, I've been kidnapped!" or something along those lines. The conversation went back and forth a little, but the rest of it is irrelevant to the UA PK.

"I've been Kidnapped" was said to mean that the Order Marshal, as the one who ordered it, has kidnapped me. And thus, for accusing a General of a "serious crime", I was PK'd on UA approval. I understand there is a big rank difference, and it is certainly disrespectful to speak out of turn, but it seems quite silly to receive a PK based purely on hurting somebody's feelings. This character is not a brand new character that was created for the Military, it is months old and was formerly part of a Criminal Organisation and several other feats. If the reason for my PK was literally just that I was too low of a rank to speak back to a General (Which was essentially what the PK'ing UA member said), then this feels a bit out of the spirit of the rules Prometheus follows.

 

Was this a final resort? Did they release me and I committed another offence in the future? No, I was stuck in the office for around an hour and a half.

I think this PK was misguided, and honestly I'm a little annoyed by the way it was carried out.

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I have spoken with both the UA and players involved, and after discussion I do not find this PK to be valid. I very much agree with your last sentence, "this feels a bit out of the spirit of the rules Prometheus follows."

Let us assume that what you said is correct, an illegal action was performed upon you, and when you called out said illegal action, you were shot for it. You called a spade a spade and died. From my understanding, you did threaten to take them to report them for this event, while extremely ill advised (especially when detained), I don't find particuarly PK worthy in this specific instance. Now, once you had gone and reported it/filed charges in court, etc. I believe a PK would be valid. However, at this stage of the RP that was occurring, I find it to be premature.

Essentially, imagine a room in which there are 3 losers: Coffee, Prime, and Donzoko are their names. Coffee shoots Prime in the head, murdering him. Donzoko exclaims, "You murdered him!" Is Coffee now able to PK Donzoko for saying what just happened? Seems like ending RP before it begins. RP is not about winning, it's about creating events/stories. This PK seems to have cut a story short before it had a conclusion worthy of death.

Accpeted.

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