Shoot's PK APPEAL

[Shoots]

Character's name & rank: Grenadier Dirk Bargin 

SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:1:634637750

Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Donzoko

Explain why you were PK'd: NHC approval. I broke lapo out when they were all tied. 

Why should you be un-PK'd?: They did not follow through with last resort, even once they had me captured, they left me in a cell for a long period of time and then just dragged me into a room and killed me. Not a single attempt to question me, to gather evidence, or to trial me. I would have been perfectly capable to do any form of roleplay for any length of time. 

Also possibly metagame, the military only seek-ed me out and knew my name after an officer brought me into a staff sit for RDM. Before the sit I was around my CO's, around 3rd company, around all kinds of different military without a problem. Nobody questioned me or even looked at me funny. 

Additional Information: My character was a lapo informant. I was on lapo's side from the start, finding myself supporting them only in a different uniform. This comes from my character's hatred of the mountaineers, finding them to be annoying and entitled. I took today's conflict as an opportunity for my character to have some character building and fun roleplay. I spent the entire time the lapo were in the cell plotting and planting weapons in the inventory of the lapo. Although interrupted multiple times, I found a perfect opportunity after the lapo were moved into the back room of the court house. Only one guard stood at the doorway, and only two in the office. I made my move. I pretended to accidently untie one of the officers with a gun, point my weapon at him. I then swayed my aim at the other guards, ending their lives quickly. I defended the room, killing the few who dared enter. After the room was clear, I simply ran out, telling people who passed " their all dead !!" I made an escape and was caught only when I walked up to a major of the feld and asked for the unified radio freq. 

[Gary]

So you were the last person to exit the room and all the guards were dead and all the prisoners were released.....hmmmm wonder who could have done it?!

[Shoots]

Multiple other people were in the courtroom when I exited it. I was even blending in when everyone was running up the staircase. So obvious but nobody stops me, questions me, or arrests me when I leave???

 

[Andrew]

Hello, I ordered your death. I was told by plenty that it was you who released the LAPO, despite having no RP reason to do so (kinda suspicious, prob metagame!). You were walking the halls of the very building you released them from and got discovered, arrested, and brought to me. Probably should’ve hid! But, you didn’t, and died as a result of you pushing your luck. I’m curious as to why you feel the need to defect on every military character you make, oddly having loyalty to specific people across the aisle, hiding behind the veil of “building character and fun roleplay,” while ruining others’ for such nonsensical reasons. I’ll leave that to another type of thread! Silly!

Edited yesterday at 08:02 AM by Andrew

[Shoots]

1 minute ago, Andrew said:

I was told by plenty that it was you who released the LAPO, despite having no RP reason to do so (kinda suspicious, prob metagame!).

I already explain in my appeal my RP reason for doing so. I was approached in game with an opportunity to be an informant, lapo already had a conflict going on with a faction that I didn't like OCly, so I took advantage. 

 

2 minutes ago, Andrew said:

You were walking the halls of the very building you released them from and got discovered, arrested, and brought to me. Probably should’ve hid! But, you didn’t, and died as a result of you pushing your luck.

Yeah because I wasn't questioned and nobody showed suspicion to me being there, so hiding would have only sealed my fate and brought an immense wave of suspicion to myself. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Andrew said:

’m curious as to why you feel the need to defect on every military character you make, oddly having loyalty to specific people across the aisle, hiding behind the veil of “building character and fun roleplay,” while ruining others’ for such nonsensical reasons.

I don't defect on every military character I make. This is quite literally the first character that I have played traitor on. It is also ridiculous that you think wanting to roleplay is a veil to hide behind. Kinda sad to see that NHC would rather people be mindless brain zombies than try something cool that brings a new light to a repeating situation. 

 

5 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Also, don’t mention “metagame” when you switch characters just to threaten my guard for PKing you. Silly!

Literally never happened. Completely false as I switched characters immediately, went AFK, and left the server ! 

 

[Andrew]

1 minute ago, Shoots said:

I already explain in my appeal my RP reason for doing so. I was approached in game with an opportunity to be an informant, lapo already had a conflict going on with a faction that I didn't like OCly, so I took advantage. 

 

Yeah because I wasn't questioned and nobody showed suspicion to me being there, so hiding would have only sealed my fate and brought an immense wave of suspicion to myself. 

 

 

I don't defect on every military character I make. This is quite literally the first character that I have played traitor on. It is also ridiculous that you think wanting to roleplay is a veil to hide behind. Kinda sad to see that NHC would rather people be mindless brain zombies than try something cool that brings a new light to a repeating situation. 

 

Literally never happened. Completely false as I switched characters immediately, went AFK, and left the server ! 

 

The switching characters was somebody else. Sounded very similar, apologies. Regardless, the rest stands true in relation to the PK itself. You were the last to leave the back office of a packed courtroom. I was told by 5+ people, several military officers and NCOs of both your name, ranks, and department.

[Shoots]

I'm sure you were told, and I totally believe you. I'm not arguing the fact you knew who I was. I'm arguing the fact of how the people found out who I was (still branching off the fact that I was not questioned at all nor anybody trying to arrest me UNTIL I was in a staff sit with one of the people I killed) and the fact that we could have had a court trial, or literally any roleplay leading up to the PK.

 

[Gary]

Is there an Informant agreement document with the lapo?

[Shoots]

I wasn't involved in any documentation, I always assumed that was simply lapo sided as they did take my name. I did make check ups though and followed through with actual informant work. 

[Gary]

So you were an informant for the organization that you had a character in and actively played on?

 

[Andrew]

While I cannot speak on exactly how the individuals knew, I can probably assume it was through the witnesses in the court room.

 

Also, my unwillingness to take you to court over shooting my men is a rather weak argument. Further, this is not what the “last resort” defense is to be used for. Virus has clarified this better than I can in prior PK appeals.

[Shoots]

8 minutes ago, Gary said:

So you were an informant for the organization that you had a character in and actively played on?

I played my other character for "lapograd" and for late night only. I don't actively use that character for roleplay like I am trying to with Dirk Bargin. In that sense though yes I do have a lapo character and I was an informant. Spiral already spoke to me about a conflict of interest and I received an ingame warning prior to this appeal. 

[Shoots]

3 minutes ago, Andrew said:

While I cannot speak on exactly how the individuals knew, I can probably assume it was through the witnesses in the court room.

I can find that as a possibility, my only suspicious as I said was I was around military and military command the entire time leading up to the prior staff sit. This leads me to believe the person that made the ticket simply pointed me out after he was returned. 

 

4 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Also, my unwillingness to take you to court over shooting my men is a rather weak argument. Further, this is not what the “last resort” defense is to be used for. Virus has clarified this better than I can in prior PK appeals.

Also could be understood from my side, but I would have preferred the form of roleplay than just sitting in the cells for a while, then getting blindfold dragged into a room and shot.

[Gary]

Denied.

You shot guards and armed a bunch of prisoners before exiting a room, I don't believe anything suspicious happened regarding this situation. Of course besides you having an "informant" character that you care about character building that has existed as a grenadier for 2 months, and of course having a lapo and NSB character. VERY ODD.