NSB-Polizeiinspektor Heydrich Goldstein

[Ract]

Character's name & rank:  NSB-Polizeiinspektor Heydrich Goldstein

SteamID STEAM_0:1:124890578

Staff member who issued the PK (if you know):  JimmyJr

Explain why you were PK'd: I started a gun fight and lost with a military grenadier who was mugging a party CO

Why should you be un-PK'd?: firstly No UA was present at my sit according to the goverment PK guidelines as a department leader which Im pretty sure I was maybe *I was deputy chief of the BSD* if that Qualifies me as a department leader then UA would of needed to be involved in my sit to properly authorize the PK and secondly situation was super sketchy I was helping serve a PCO when I saw this military grenadier came out of the cive spawn and the first thing they do is walk up to a member of the Party and aim their gun at them telling them to not move and try and tie them up I assumed it was just some Minge who had No Intent to RP so I tried shooting him with my Magnum revolver hitting him in the head twice at point blank range which some how didnt kill him instantly not even taking out half of his health somehow he then killed me and made a ticket to have me PKd. IC I have some super important responsibilities to the NSB and im one of their most active and effective agents who have been instrumental in many ongoing High profile cases and to have that IC potential wasted on a PK that started because some mingy grenadier who is ex-staff got mad at me for trying to stop them from continuing their NITRP behavior would be a terrible loss for my faction. And they guy I was trying to stop is a well known minge who was removed from staff for his behavior. he knows rules but only acknowledges them when it suits him

Additional Information: https://medal.tv/games/undefined/clips/ktndxCzJD5PhkLn-4?invite=cr-MSxwb1osMTAzMDgwMDY3

Edited 23 hours ago by Ract

[JimmyJr]

Hello, I Pked you because you started a gunfight and died, you claim that the military guy was trying to mug the party CO but that is not true as in the sit the grenadier who requested the PK said he was not, and I took his word. Judging by the clip I don't think he was trying to. You claim that you thought it was a minge and just wanted to get rid of him, but you can't just assume everyone that is arresting people are minges that doesn't work like that. You took the risk for your character to help this party CO and simply died. IC actions have IC consequences. Perhaps don't start a gunfight that you can't win and maybe then your character would be alive, another thing is if you think people are minges then you make a ticket instead of taking IC actions on the alleged minge. As always UA has the final word and will decide if you get unpked or not. Best of luck to you Ract and have a good day!

[Ract]

hell id be ok if I just get a rank demotion instead of a full blown PK plus how does two shots to the head with a magnum revolver do less than half health I should of won that gunfight also from my perspective the guy seemed like a minge who had no intent to roleplay and for him to PK me on the day I'm receiving a medal and promotion for all the work ive been putting into the BSD is beyond infuriating

 

Edited Wednesday at 10:11 PM by Ract

[JimmyJr]

Well like I said in the sit, I don't think I can give you a rank demotion I told you that UA was needed for that if we were going down that route. Also, for your handgun that's also an IC issue I mean yeah those do lots of damage, but I guess you got unlucky today. I mean really if you knew you were getting promoted and a medal then why risk starting a gunfight. Let this be a lesson for the future. 

[ItzTreywayyツ]

As the man who requested the PK i mean you initiated a gunfight shooting me in the back and i turned and killed you in self defense.  You risked your life to save somebody and you failed so hopefully in your next life you either make sure i die or not try something like that!

[Ract]

like I said im willing to go with a name change PK or even a demotion PK if any given the circumstances and the situation that led to the gunfight where very minge like and not very roleplay friendly but I feel a full on PK is a bit much given the gun fight started they way most gunfights between NITRP Enlisted's start

Edited yesterday at 12:20 AM by Ract

[JimmyJr]

 By the way your steamID for future reference is STEAM_0:1:124890578

 

[Ract]

Thanks Ill fix that right now

[ItzTreywayyツ]

You keep on saying it was “mingy” and NITRP but how would you even know? She coulda broke every crime imaginable and you just wouldn’t know all you heard was me tell her to stop moving and you assumed I was being a minge(even then you should arrest them) and most gunfights like that pretty much always end in PKs for the one starting unnecessary gunfights. Killing someone isn’t a first option unless absolutely necessary

[Ract]

I know you and Augustus have a history and its common practice for a lot of people she's friends with to mess with her for fun even in the video its clear that you only turned your attention to her when she spoke because until then you didn't even register who it was. Then you thought it would be funny to hand cuff her as a joke. I've seen you and other people do it plenty of times before and even seen some people get gunned down for trying to stop it themselves but they dont get PKd over it so I acted out similarly since because it was clearly a joke interaction that occurs regularly and granted I myself didn't take it to seriously plus after you killed me you just walked away from her and didn't continue interaction or try and continue arresting her which is a dead give away you where just trying to be funny with her

Edited yesterday at 05:58 AM by Ract

[Ract]

and besides I'm not saying the PK isn't valid because it "technically" is even I will agree with that I'm just asking for a lighter sentence since no UA where available for the sit to give out the options for a temp PK or name and demotion PK which I feel would be more appropriate given the context of the situation

[Cezzy]

You violated the PK guidelines and paid the price..

You were screaming and swearing in the staff sit. Maybe it'd be good for you to take a little break, I think the RP is getting you you a little. Start again anew and work your way back up - it's part of the fun of the game.

Edited yesterday at 11:33 AM by Cezzy

[ItzTreywayyツ]

I didn't even realize what you said towards the end but now I wanna address it!

1. At no point was I ever mad during the situation why would I be? I killed you and PK'd you so I see no reason to even be mad but you on the other hand were quite mad and threw a fit in the sit room over a game.

2. "well known minge" I have taken all my characters seriously and have had several relevant characters which is why I'm well known but cant say I've ever heard of you unfortunately.

[Ract]

you where a moderator for like a week before being removed so your lying now about your past and you say you take your characters seriously but this whole scenario is evidence enough that you were not being serious in this moment and turned a tiny interaction that honestly was a nothing burger and would of been forgotten by everyone involved into a whole ordeal that is understandably frustrating for me and like I said before its e because I know you and Augustus are friends and you where just messing with her as a joke because I've seen "you" and other people do it before if you really where serious about arresting her you would have continued to arrest on her after you killed me but you didn't you just walked away as if the interaction never happened, which is why I'm saying given the circumstances to have me PKd over a non roleplay interaction should be enough justification to have it applead or lessened to something more fitting like a temp pk or a demotion and or name change pk if any punishment at all

Edited 23 hours ago by Ract

[ItzTreywayyツ]

I ended the interaction cause there were a few other members of the NSB at the ICC gate within eye shot of the situation and I had just shot and killed a member of the NSB even if it was in self defense I would have been arrested and that's not something i was interested in doing.

[Ract]

If you really cared about not getting arrested by NSB you wouldn't have went up to a party official by yourself aiming your gun at them and try arresting them "by yourself" them up you did in front of the NSB and Kaisergard I've seen you and Agustus interact plenty of times in this manner and its always just been you joking with her which is fine I don't care about that but because your going out of your way to make a PK against me over me interrupting your joke is why im calling it out for what it is. I've been Pkd before under actual RP which is fine and I let those happen but given the context of this interaction a perm PK is overkill we have other forums of PK for a reason

Edited yesterday at 04:06 PM by Ract

[ItzTreywayyツ]

Government PK Criteria

7. Dying after initiating a shoot-out

I now have no further response good luck on the next character.

Edited yesterday at 04:06 PM by ItzTreywayyツ

[Ract]

and Like I said before I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the PK as it does "technically* meet the criteria I'm asking for an appeal or lessened sentence because of the context behind it we have other forms of PK for a reason

Edited yesterday at 04:44 PM by Ract

[jopperi]

you deserve to die after losing to a guy who was standing still

[JimmyJr]

Oh, by the way when you said "No UA were available for the sit to give out the options for a temp PK" they didn't have to be because I can give out temp PK's but I just decided that a full PK was fit for what happened. Just wanted to share that with you but if things do change and it does change to a temp Pk or anything else well congrats to you but I'm not saying it happen. Also don't have your hopes up because you never know. @Ract

[kdg_yt]

dont crash out in game next time when you die

Edited 22 hours ago by kdg_yt

[Ract]

@JimmyJryea I was just looking at the rules for the government PK and since I might considered a department leader its stated UA needs to be present for Department Lead PK's so I brought it up incase I Qualify of a Department Leader

Edited 19 hours ago by Ract

[JimmyJr]

I don't think you are a department leader because you said I quote "I might consider a department leader", and you also said I quote "In case I qualify of a department leader" You would know 100% if you are one or not and won't have to say you might consider yourself one. It doesn't work like that, to me it just sounds like you are not very sure. You would have said something in the sit if you knew you were a department leader. I don't think department leaders will start gunfights as they are smart and know not to end their characters life cause of an 'alleged minge' think about it why would department leaders' risk everything they got just on an alleged minge. They would be smart enough to not get involved by themselves. 

[General Blue]

NSB be like:

"PK's for thee, not for me!"