Thomas Cumic PK Appeal

[TommyLegend]

**Character's name & rank:** Thomas Cumic / Civilian

**SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX):**  76561199522190064

**Staff member who issued the PK (if you know):** Aris

**Explain why you were PK'd:** I was offline when I was PK'd yet when I asked, I was told that I done FRP, which has nothing to do with a perm-death situation. They said when I was being chased by LAPO and NSB I failed to stop, yet I was running. I do not see how this is Fail-RP and I believe a more minor punishment could be given instead of a character PK.

**Why should you be un-PK'd?: ** My character, Thomas Cumic. Was my first character on the server, and has everything I worked hard for, money, tiers, cars, etc.. I believe my punishment has taken all my work away and is not being used correctly, for a perm-kill given because of IC running away is not justified, nor should it happen, and I should have been notified straight away, not hopping on and seeing that my long lasting character is perm-killed due to a IC matter. If LAPO and NSB had a problem with me running away, I did remain in game for two hours after running away, so I can't see why they wait until I hop offline to then report and get my character banned. Yet, this is a lesson to remember, sometimes I should not run, it may be IC but it may have been best for me to stop.

**Additional Information: ** N/A

[ItIsÀris]

Hello,

 

I am the member of staff that PK'd your character, I understand losing character you've been quite attached too isn't nice, however I approved the PK due to breaking fearRP (I never mentioned failrp) when held at gun point, and not fearing for your characters life.

 

The approval was delayed due to issues from the player who requested the PK having issues with clipping, however was less than a hour after the situation. Once I received the clip confirming the pretenses, the player made a ticket to continue with the PK, I attempted to bring you to a sit however you were offline. After carefully reviewing the clip, it was blatant you did not fear for your character's life as when you were under gunpoint with many a warning said you kept trying to avoid being tied by crouching and moving whilst stating "what are the charges". They gave you plenty of chances to submit, however you attempted to run away which resulted in them shooting you.

 

This is a IC situation, not a OOC staff situation, I'd highly suggest you read the PK guidelines which can be found on the wiki on the forums. When you returned to the server, you made a ticket claiming for it to be a mistake, I then ran you through the situation which resulted in the PK and explained why this occurred. After this you made another ticket to try and get it unpk'd, I re-explained the process of appealing on the forums as well the whole situation again. You then made a final ticket regarding the appeal again and I helped you set up a appeal as you were confused over how the forums worked, again I explained the situation.

 

Unfortunately, as I've stated in my previous points, a PK is the result of IC situation in which you character was killed, leaving the server does not make you exempt from the PK taking place. We understand this can be frustrating, but I'd highly recommend you reading the guidelines and rules to understand my decision why the situation occured.

 

If you have any questions I'm more than happy to answer them and feel free to reach out.

 

 

 

 

 

[TommyLegend]

GOING TO BE RE-DONE I GOT MIXED UP ON TWO SITUATIONS 

[TommyLegend]

**Character's name & rank:** Thomas Cumic / Civilian

**SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX):**  76561199522190064

**Staff member who issued the PK (if you know):** Aris

**Explain why you were PK'd:** I was offline when I was PK'd yet when I asked, I was told that I done FRP + Fear RP (Which is just not correct), which has nothing to do with a perm-death situation. They said when I was being chased by LAPO and NSB I failed to stop, yet I was running. I do not see how this is Fail-RP and I believe a more minor punishment could be given instead of a character PK.

**Why should you be un-PK'd?: **

My character, Thomas Cumic. Was my first character on the server, and has everything I worked hard for, money, tiers, cars, etc.. They we're kinda corrupt, I was arguing with them and then drove off, then they chased me. So the reason why I kept moving around it because I was trying to ask for charges, and I did request for a admin when it did happen, but they teleported me a bit after the incident and I didn't have any clips, so the thing we're I was saying 'WHATS THE CHARGES?' was me saying it in the OOC chat, as that is the correct channel for it. Once they told me, I'd allow them to arrest me, but at that time as I am new, I thought it'd be okay to do that. Furthermore, I don't want to use this as a 'escape ticket' yet I am quite new, never really been regulated in terms of character punishments and I did not understand that my character could get a PK for asking a OOC question during a arrest, I was attempting to ask the officers 'WHATS MY CHARGES?' in the OOC category of chat because as said, they just started chasing me because I drove off, yet in the clip it makes me look like was doing crime.

In addition, I do believe a second chance can be given. I am new, and I do not know much about Perm-Kill, Character Punishments, I thought that it was allowed to ask OOC questions during this, yet after I only found out. And also another reason why I was trying to move around, was because I was trying to both get a admin here before they took me in, as last time this happened, the admins just let NSB take me to the cells, so I wanted a admins opinion on the situation and if its realistic, also, the large crash which tipped my car over, I know I jumped out, but wouldn't that kill me in terms of IC / Lore, I know I jumped out after a bit because I realised that I ain't gonna RP the 'crash' scene, I think this incident is both dodgy on the history of how it started and both what happened in the clip which will be listed below.

**Additional Information: **

https://streamable.com/cah57a
  (YES IT MAKES ME LOOK LIKE I FAILED FEAR-RP BUT READ THE ABOVE) ^^^

Edited 1 hour ago by TommyLegend

[TommyLegend]

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Edited 1 hour ago by TommyLegend

[ItIsÀris]

Hello, 
As I stated in Discord messages after you reached out to me "you were killed under civ pk-8" (being killed while not abiding by Fear-RP [PK]).

This was not down to failRP as stated in my earlier post. Nor did I ever mention failRP. You failed to act with fear for your character's life, as such, when you were shot, you were PK'd, I understand being PK'd can be a frustrating experience; however, it is a key and integrated mechanic of this gamemode. I'd suggest reading the guidelines as stated in our messages and on the forums, as well as reading the wiki/rules to get a better understanding of the mechanics of this type of RP.

 

 

 

[TommyLegend]

The whole scene, was dodgy and unrealistic. You say 'I failed to act with fear' when I was trying to type and get a admin at the same time, which is hard, and I never knew it was even classed as Fail-Fear RP until you told me today.