PK Appeal

[Hood]

Character's name & rank: Oberstleutnant Nardwin Farage

SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX):  STEAM_0:1:595961750

Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Browniemeister

Explain why you were PK'd: Well from the brief explanation I was given, "consistent problems with the feldjagers and mass transferring people"

Why should you be un-PK'd?: Because I got arrested yesterday for trespassing and today for transferring people, the Kriegsmarschall dealt with my arrest yesterday and reprimanded both me and the feldjagers. Apart from that there has been no other conflicts between me and the feldjagers.

In response to the claim of "mass transfer" I transferred 2 people out to the KG.

Therefore I see no way as to how this could meet any guidelines (bar UA approval) , it seems highly unreasonable to PK me for being arrested 2 times by the feldjagers, I dont see how this could warrant a PK for such minor crimes being committed as well.

Additional Information: I am aware this is extremely brief, but I feel that there isn't much context for me to work with, unless there are other reasons which I am not aware of.

[Saito]

Hi! I am the Person who requested a PK on your Character!

There was more in regards to your PK, and there were more conflicts in the recent activity which included also actively going after Individuals within the MGD, making Transfers that weren't *just* two people of which some of them were illegal outright e.t.c. You've also have been consistently going after Classified Information and were threatening MGD operatives.

ou've also have made actions that destabilized my Command and Department.

Your Actions have effectively been equivalent to a active threat within the Military against the Intelligence Branch while higher authorities intervened on your behalf during a time of War.

Due to the Active nature of the RP, i can't fully disclose things on the Forums. However, it was multiple actions that forced me to have you eliminated.

[Hood]

2 hours ago, Saito said:

making Transfers that weren't *just* two people of which some of them were illegal outright e.t.c. 

So firstly, this is false. I transferred one person "illegally". So I am unsure as to where you got this idea its been multiple. I signed a feldjager's transfer papers. 
Anyone else was within the Reservearmee, which being deputy of the heer I am well within my right to sign their papers.

 

 

2 hours ago, Saito said:

there were more conflicts in the recent activity which included also actively going after Individuals within the MGD

In regards to this statement, I was not "going after". If you are referring to when I requested to have a conversation with a member of the MGD, then I would say that hardly constitutes stating I was "going after". 

 

 

2 hours ago, Saito said:

You've also have been consistently going after Classified Information and were threatening MGD operatives.

Furthermore, this statement is again an exaggeration. I was given classified information by people, you were aware of this, I made you aware of it and also the Kriegsmarschall. So I did not actively sought out classified information, even then most people would get me to sign an NDA or focus their attention on whoever is leaking information. 

Then in regards to "threatening" I genuinely cannot recall ever threatening an MGD operative. Insulting maybe, questioning the legality of their actions possibly, questioning their authority probably. It seems you have blown this entire event out of proportion.

You had me in a cell, you had a richter there, you were trialling other people, no other general made a proper attempt to halt your criminal proceedings against me. You even had a richter enter the cell after you presented charges to him. 
 

2 hours ago, Saito said:

 However, it was multiple actions that forced me to have you eliminated.

I just question if you were "forced" to eliminate me or possibly you have amplified the situation beyond the facts.
Granted I was problematic at times, granted I could hear how riled up you were getting sometimes and it encouraged me to stand my ground. But I hardly think the True events that transpired constituted a PK. 

If you went to the KM (which he already wasn't happy with me and had reprimanded me for prior events involving us ) or you put me through the courts (seeing as you already had a richter ready to trial me), you possibly could have claimed the same outcome, but those avenues were not explored, you had an extremely large list of charges against me, but instead you chose to blindfold me and drag me to a room, say quite literally a couple words then shot me. The RP was spectacular.

Edited 18 hours ago by Hood

[Saito]

1 hour ago, Hood said:

So firstly, this is false. I transferred one person "illegally". So I am unsure as to where you got this idea its been multiple. I signed a feldjager's transfer papers. 
Anyone else was within the Reservearmee, which being deputy of the heer I am well within my right to sign their papers.

One more Individual that was being actively sought out to be arrested. Illegally since there was already a Warrant out for ihm.
And likewise, none of them had approval from the Main office. So. Yes. Illegal

 

 

1 hour ago, Hood said:

In regards to this statement, I was not "going after". If you are referring to when I requested to have a conversation with a member of the MGD, then I would say that hardly constitutes stating I was "going after". 

A Lie. The Individual in question presented an entirely different situation. And your Prior action where you gain access through dubious ways into MGD information regarding you and you investigating it paints a different picture.

 

 

1 hour ago, Hood said:

Furthermore, this statement is again an exaggeration. I was given classified information by people, you were aware of this, I made you aware of it and also the Kriegsmarschall. So I did not actively sought out classified information, even then most people would get me to sign an NDA or focus their attention on whoever is leaking information. 

Then in regards to "threatening" I genuinely cannot recall ever threatening an MGD operative. Insulting maybe, questioning the legality of their actions possibly, questioning their authority probably. It seems you have blown this entire event out of proportion.

Answered in previous.

 

1 hour ago, Hood said:

You had me in a cell, you had a richter there, you were trialling other people, no other general made a proper attempt to halt your criminal proceedings against me. You even had a richter enter the cell after you presented charges to him. 

A Literal grenadier presented himself as a Richter. A **Grenadier**. Having tried to trial you the day prior ended up with the KM intervening and shutting it down. Today, we tried to trial you but with no success.

 

 

1 hour ago, Hood said:

I just question if you were "forced" to eliminate me or possibly you have amplified the situation beyond the facts.
Granted I was problematic at times, granted I could hear how riled up you were getting sometimes and it encouraged me to stand my ground. But I hardly think the True events that transpired constituted a PK. 

If you went to the KM (which he already wasn't happy with me and had reprimanded me for prior events involving us ) or you put me through the courts (seeing as you already had a richter ready to trial me), you possibly could have claimed the same outcome, but those avenues were not explored, you had an extremely large list of charges against me, but instead you chose to blindfold me and drag me to a room, say quite literally a couple words then shot me. The RP was spectacular.

I agree! I don't mind that you were standing your ground! It was fun! Though the problem is when it is a situation where you are actively acting against the Factions, I am managing to the point of a Case-File being built and you being investigated. The KM route was made and was deflected. The Courts were once again hours on end absent. As such, the request was made and executed upon.



 

[Hood]

11 hours ago, Saito said:

One more Individual that was being actively sought out to be arrested. Illegally since there was already a Warrant out for ihm.
And likewise, none of them had approval from the Main office. So. Yes. Illegal

In regards to this statement, it is not my job nor is it any of my concern if the transferee fails to sought out a signature from the main office. I am signing as the approving officer, it is the transferee's job to make sure he gets approval from the main office. So I am confused as to how the blame can be pinned on me.
 

 

11 hours ago, Saito said:

A Lie. The Individual in question presented an entirely different situation. And your Prior action where you gain access through dubious ways into MGD information regarding you and you investigating it paints a different picture.

Okay so one person made a claim against me, stating the events which occurred differed from my recollection of the events which transpired. 
I do ask of you, this person who made these claims was recently PKd (days ago, joining MGD within an hour of being PKd while they had an investigation into me), I had a huge involvement in their PK and they are aware of this. Do we possibly think this individual could be perpetuating the events to a degree which is possibly untrue ? 
Because right now it seems its my word against theirs.

 

11 hours ago, Saito said:

A Literal grenadier presented himself as a Richter. A **Grenadier**. Having tried to trial you the day prior ended up with the KM intervening and shutting it down. Today, we tried to trial you but with no success.

Finally, this statement really hold no real meaning. You are attempting to make the claim that a grenadier of the courts could not have tried me, but you continued criminal proceedings against the Chief of the Feldjagers who was a hauptmann. 

Furthemore, it seems you didn't really have any concern for whether this grenadier could or could not try someone, as if you are trying to make the claim the grenadier did not hold the relevant authority to try me, then we are to assume he was second chamber, but if he was second chamber he could not have tried the Chief of the Feldjagers either.

[Saito]

3 hours ago, Hood said:

In regards to this statement, it is not my job nor is it any of my concern if the transferee fails to sought out a signature from the main office. I am signing as the approving officer, it is the transferee's job to make sure he gets approval from the main office. So I am confused as to how the blame can be pinned on me.

Semantics. You Facilitated it in full to the point of bringing them there physically.

 

3 hours ago, Hood said:

Okay so one person made a claim against me, stating the events which occurred differed from my recollection of the events which transpired. 
I do ask of you, this person who made these claims was recently PKd (days ago, joining MGD within an hour of being PKd while they had an investigation into me), I had a huge involvement in their PK and they are aware of this. Do we possibly think this individual could be perpetuating the events to a degree which is possibly untrue ? 
Because right now it seems its my word against theirs.

The major proponent of your death comes from your general actions taken and does not rest solely on that Person. Likewise, you approached the Person yourself.

 

3 hours ago, Hood said:

Finally, this statement really hold no real meaning. You are attempting to make the claim that a grenadier of the courts could not have tried me, but you continued criminal proceedings against the Chief of the Feldjagers who was a hauptmann. 

Furthemore, it seems you didn't really have any concern for whether this grenadier could or could not try someone, as if you are trying to make the claim the grenadier did not hold the relevant authority to try me, then we are to assume he was second chamber, but if he was second chamber he could not have tried the Chief of the Feldjagers either.

Right. Let's have the Chief of the Feld or Deputy Chief of the Heer trialed by a GRENADIER. Maybe have a assistant in the state trial a Minister for the Hell of it. Or maybe have random dude go in and trial some Crown official. Yes, i have (just) exaggerated to prove a point here. A Grenadier who declares on his own that he can trial people is not going to trial people. That's genuinely moronic.

This is my last word on the matter.