"FearRP" Pk

[DonaldJTrump]

Character's name & rank: Chiefinspector Frank Heinz

SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): 76561198391985965

Staff member who issued the PK (if you know):  Goat

Explain why you were PK'd: Breaking fear rp

Why should you be un-PK'd?: I should be unpked because what they classified as FearRP, did not meet all the guidelines. A man pulled a gun on me when attempting to detain me, and gave me 1 single warning to stop, and the warning was given right before I was killed. I believe that under the pk guidelines it dosent significantly meet the required standards. I also feel that this wasnt used as a last resort in this instance. I also believe that the player who attempted to get me pked was pk hunting me showing he attempted to get me killed twice now in 2 days. When the warrant that was written was false, and already given valid evidence for it.

Additional Information: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/lyvObTyC1DfsJkVXO?invite=cr-MSxtMWIsMjI5NzA5NjM&v=60

 

1. If you're holding someone under FearRP and are issuing them orders/warnings to not do something, and they disobey you, then you may kill them; however, it should not be your first choice of action. In this situation, one single warning/order will not suffice, multiple warnings in a very short time span will also not suffice, you must give them adequate time to react. When in game, you are actively a part of the roleplay, and therefore you must also be actively aware of your environment as well. Any excuses such as “I couldn’t hear them because my headset was turned off” will not be permitted. Outside elements of the game cannot be used as an excuse to avoid FearRP or being PK’d (i.e. being AFK).
2. Purposefully subjecting someone into a situation which puts them under valid PK guidelines.
3. I would also like to note this same individual has been purposefully subjecting me into situations over the past 2 days, consistently trying to get me killed.

Edited 16 hours ago by DonaldJTrump

[Fluppy]

+1 He only gave him 1 warning "dont move" the guidelines directly state "1 warning will not suffice" to which he immediately shot him, which again according to the guidelines this did not give him "adequate time to react."

[sergantcereal]

+1 This obviously wasn't handled with any intent to RP.

[Saito]

Hi!

I was the one who spoke to you during that time, while the one with the Clip requested the PK.

- (context) You actively deserted from the Military using a dubious method, with a Justice Minister preemptively getting yourself a Pardon for desertion, which, quite frankly, was odd to me at the time, and the crimes before the situation that were committed.

- PK Hunting is when you are forced into situations where your goal is to be PK'd with no intent to RP. In this Instance, you were being detained and brought before a Court of Law. However, after being told you would be arrested, your very first action was to immediately act on it, Quote
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Generalmajor Matheus Johan Weiss: Detain him.
Chefinspektor Frank Heinz: Detain me? Well, that's not going to happen.
/
And started running inside, where a whole group of people was present, compared to our isolated area in front of the Reichstag.
Keep in mind, this isn't a Ruleplay server—context matters.  If a person were to have a Pistol shoved into their face while being surrounded by others with clear intent, one would fear for their life and stay still.  Instead, you even commented on the attempt while it was running, showing that you fully understood the situation.


-The burden of the PK in this case lies on you for disregarding the fear for your life through the intent to escape detention while actively under gunpoint.
-Last Resort (Not applicable as a point since it was your actions that brought this situation forward)
 

I wish you good luck with your Appeal!

[DonaldJTrump]

Just kinda wanted to let you know somethings that may have not been transponded. I didn’t desert from the military, I was court ordered transferred out for my safety, because of this exact reason.  I also wanted to note, It makes absolutely 0 sense why would a person attempt to have someone killed twice, but want them in your branch, and the only reason I would see is to start problems and mess with me. Whether you want to label it as pk hunting, or just straight revenge rp, it all falls down the same shoe. I also see you say that this isn’t a rule play server, that is the case but the role play still has to be kept within the rules, it is obvious i was given one warning and then shot, and the rules specifically go against that. 

Edited 3 hours ago by DonaldJTrump
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[Saito]

2 hours ago, DonaldJTrump said:

Just kinda wanted to let you know somethings that may have not been transponded. I didn’t desert from the military, I was court ordered transferred out for my safety, because of this exact reason. I also wanted to note, It makes absolutely 0 sense why would a person attempt to have someone killed twice, but want them in your branch, and the only reason I would see is to start problems and mess with me.

That's fine! That's part of the Context! OOC'ly irrelevant, but gives a wider picture!

 

2 hours ago, DonaldJTrump said:

Whether you want to label it as pk hunting, or just straight revenge rp, it all falls down the same shoe.

Not really PK hunting or revenge RP...guess the latter would fit for a different person which is someone with grievance, but in this case it falls within the rules.

ImperialRP Rules
FearRP Rules

1. While under FearRP you are required to oblige by the commands of your captor. If you attempt to escape or pull out a weapon to fight back but are killed that would then display a disregard for your own safety. This is a calculated risk you took, or a denial to value your own life, which will result in your PK.

The other rules support it. There was reason to detain you, there was cause, there was no baiting. The Warning number is irrelevant when the context here shows you've acknowledged that you are being detained and under Gunpoint by multiple people. The rules go against people who try to get someone shot for banality.

(A.E, Person gets detained ,he was told to not look at the individual in question. He turns around to look at him and gets shot. "Bad PK")
In here it was
(Person is talked to. Then placed under Gunpoint with intent to detain. Person acknowledges during escape and decides to voice his acknowledment by (it won't be happening and consequently gets shot for not valuing his life.)

PK Guidelines
-Government PK Guidelines

1. Being killed while not abiding by Fear-RP [PK]

[DonaldJTrump]

I see your point, but if you see with what I originally posted, the fear rp guidelines go against shooting someone after only 1 warning, which I wasnt even given to stop, right directly before I was gunned down. 

[DonaldJTrump]

Fear RP also states to take context of the situation into count, not only was I not shot at a last resort, but also I could have easily interpreted it as kidnapping, due to the man there already attempted to get me killed before, and failed.