PK Appeal

[Titan]

Character's name & rank: Polizeihauptmeister Lukas Eisenhart

SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:1:581537351

Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Donzoko

Explain why you were PK'd: I got Pked for ,dirt, for a document (Witness Statement) that I had written.  

Why should you be un-PK'd?: Well first I was pked for writing a witness statement on something I had witness just the day before. I think getting pked for 1 witness statement is bit too little to be able to be perma killed  but then again it could of been  something i wrote in that witness statement, I don't know. Another thing is that I didn't even make the witness statement, A member of the polizeigericht made it for me and also helped me in some parts of the witness statement, to be specific the wording in some parts, just to then hand it to the people who pked me to get me pked by them for "dirt" reasoning. 
Edit: I was just doing my job in enforcing the law and i did not even want the person who I apparently had dirt on pked, just punished.  

Additional Information: No matter the outcome of this PK Appeal, I will understand and continue as usual. I don't know the rules very well so I'm giving the PK appeal route a shot to see if I'm able to get my char unpked. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Titan

[Frosty Exhib.GG]

Gay -1

[Vixx]

Thank you for taking the time to appeal on the Forums. Whilst I did not authorize your PK, I was heavily involved when speaking with the individual who was seeking the GriefPK - Discussion before UA Approval - which is why I shall comment here to further explain why you were PK'd within our Guidelines. 

 

You had written and signed an Official Witness Statement, with a Polizeigericht member, which detailed a players actions which would have him tried in a Court for Espionage. Something which can be punishable by arrest and/or death. To stop this, he took matters into his own hands and asked if it was a viable GriefPK. The PK was approved as Greif falls under 'ANY Information which can lead to arrest/execution.'  furthermore because what you had accused him of was A. Not Public Knowledge, B. Illegal & C. Information which would lead to Consequences or Punishment.

 

Overall, this ticked all the boxes and fell into the category for a Valid GriefPK. However, UA shall make the final decision. 

[ThirdEye]

Hello, I was the Gericht member who collected your witness statement. 

31 minutes ago, Titan said:

Another thing is that I didn't even make the witness statement, A member of the polizeigericht made it for me and also helped me in some parts of the witness statement, to be specific the wording in some parts,

In regard to this, you solely wrote 100% of your statement. If verification on this is required, the Google Docs version history can be provided. Nothing was written for you or edited from your text. On top of this, you even submitted your own pictures that you took as evidence into your statement.

Before you even drafted the statement, you told the Gendarmerie Chief, while I was standing next to you, that you intended to take the Polizeikommandeur to court. This alone already indicated that you wanted to use dirt against the Polizeikommandeur. You then proceeded to write a witness statement on this in advance of a court trial you intended to hold against the Polizeikommandeur.

[Tiamat_Defender]

Hi, I was the one who killed Lukas Eisenhart in roleplay. I was informed of his intentions to use dirt against me and trial me for breaking a crown mandate by a Gericht member. 

I was handed a signed witness statement from Lukas Eisenhart in which he in full detail explained how I violated the Crown Mandate, and stated that he wanted to take "legal action" against me. This was not just a statement but also had evidence of me breaking it via multiple images. 

The crimes he intended to charge me with, could have possibly gotten me the death penalty, and there were even clear pictures of me that he took.

With this in mind, I knew I had to sort this out to protect the life of my character. Later that day, I had Lukas in my office, and he began talking about how he was going to try me for breaking a crown mandate. 

Even while Donzoko was overwatching the situation, I asked him if there was anything we could do to make this go away. He said there was nothing that would change his mind, so I told him, “Fine, then I'm just going to kill you”.

I tried to give him one last option out, which he denied, at this point it was completely last resort.

I then pulled out my gun and shot him. Even after the fact, in OOC, I asked Donzoko if I had done everything right, and he said it was a valid PK.

[Titan]

15 minutes ago, Tiamat_Defender said:

Donzoko was overwatching the situation, I asked him if there was anything we could do to make this go away. He said there was nothing that would change his mind, so I told him, “Fine, then I'm just going to kill you”.

 

Ok just to clarify, I did respond and say that I didn't want you as uniformed personnel of the Ministry of Interior, that was my offer to make it go away, you rejected it and then killed me.

Edited 32 minutes ago by Titan

[Titan]

33 minutes ago, ThirdEye said:

Hello, I was the Gericht member who collected your witness statement. 

In regard to this, you solely wrote 100% of your statement. If verification on this is required, the Google Docs version history can be provided. Nothing was written for you or edited from your text. On top of this, you even submitted your own pictures that you took as evidence into your statement.

Before you even drafted the statement, you told the Gendarmerie Chief, while I was standing next to you, that you intended to take the Polizeikommandeur to court. This alone already indicated that you wanted to use dirt against the Polizeikommandeur. You then proceeded to write a witness statement on this in advance of a court trial you intended to hold against the Polizeikommandeur.

Ok well 1. What I meant is that you gave me verbal "suggestions" while writing the doc, specifically at the end part of it, so the last paragraph. I did not mean that you specifically wrote some of the doc for me.
2. I notified the Gendarmerie Chief per the request of the Courts Chief to let him know what was happening so he knew one of his officers would be brought a Security Courts Trial. At the end of day, it's up to the courts whether they want to hold a trial or not. 

[Titan]

55 minutes ago, Vixx said:

Thank you for taking the time to appeal on the Forums. Whilst I did not authorize your PK, I was heavily involved when speaking with the individual who was seeking the GriefPK - Discussion before UA Approval - which is why I shall comment here to further explain why you were PK'd within our Guidelines. 

 

You had written and signed an Official Witness Statement, with a Polizeigericht member, which detailed a players actions which would have him tried in a Court for Espionage. Something which can be punishable by arrest and/or death. To stop this, he took matters into his own hands and asked if it was a viable GriefPK. The PK was approved as Greif falls under 'ANY Information which can lead to arrest/execution.'  furthermore because what you had accused him of was A. Not Public Knowledge, B. Illegal & C. Information which would lead to Consequences or Punishment.

 

Overall, this ticked all the boxes and fell into the category for a Valid GriefPK. However, UA shall make the final decision. 

Thank you for taking the time to write this reply and letting me know more behind my PK. 

Edited 27 minutes ago by Titan

[Titan]

1 hour ago, Frosty Exhib.GG said:

Gay -1

ok...