Ban Appeal

[Donamyslu]

Your Name: Donamyslu 

SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): Steam ID: 76561199146722362

Appeal Type Dispute

Which staff member banned you?:  Maverick

How long is your ban for?: 5 or 6 Days I do not remember

Why were you banned?:  NITRP Fail Rp RDM and PO 

Why do you deserve to be unbanned?:  I did not commit these crimes, I have no idea why have I been banned at ALL I get the PO but I did not kill anyone randomly come back to a location nor fail roleplay?

Additional Information: I couldn't log because I was locked out so I couldn't appeal my 2 earlier offenses

[Maverick]

If i remember correctly, you were going around shooting people for quite literally no reason, You were resisting detainment and your microphone was absolute ass and caused a lot of spiking despite being asked several times to fix it. I saw you shooting people from a rooftop too i believe. Im not sure if it was you or someone else who LTAP'ed as well but i didnt add it to the reasons.

Good luck with the response from UA.

[Donamyslu]

Excuse me? I was not on any rooftop? Could I get a clip?  Yes I remember that my mic was a bit busted but as you asked me I fixed it and I was in the Military base no one else was there beside one other guy so It was impossible for me to shot anyone because I remained in the base and in the base only.

Edited Monday at 07:54 AM by Donamyslu

[Kentuckyfriedhorse]

Hi @Donamyslu!

After viewing the discussion and reviewing the logs and your long list of notes. I am wondering if there is any sort of evidence on your end that you could provide to help your case, as I am not seeing anything that would make me personally believe to elevate or shorten this ban. Based on your track record, it does not scream to me that you should be unbanned.

Of course, you have the chance to provide evidence. Take the time to find clips, or others who witnessed this situation, and have them respond to this thread.

 

Thank you,

Have a wonderful day!

[Donamyslu]

I am going to be completely honest here, because at this point I am becoming increasingly frustrated with how this appeal is being handled.

After reading your response, I am struggling to understand what exactly you have reviewed and how you have arrived at the conclusion that my ban should remain in place. You state that you have reviewed the discussion, the logs, and my notes, yet your response does not address a single one of the inconsistencies I have brought up. Instead, you have chosen to focus on my track record and whether I personally convince you that I deserve to be unbanned.

With all due respect, this is not supposed to be about whether I personally convince you that I deserve another chance. It is supposed to be about whether the punishment was justified in the first place. Those are two very different things, and I would appreciate it if that distinction were actually acknowledged.

Let's address Maverick's statements, since those seem to be the foundation of this entire situation.

Maverick claims that I was supposedly going around shooting people for no reason. Where is the evidence of this? Which players did I allegedly shoot? At what time did these incidents occur? Are there logs or clips demonstrating that I was responsible? I have repeatedly stated that I was at the military base and remained there. There was only one other person there besides me, so I would genuinely like to understand how this accusation is supposed to correspond with what actually happened.

Then there is the rooftop allegation. Maverick specifically says, and I quote, "I saw you shooting people from a rooftop too i believe." I have already directly addressed this. I WAS NOT ON A ROOFTOP. I asked for a clip because I want to see what this accusation is based on. Instead of receiving footage or any meaningful clarification, I am now being told that I need to find my own evidence to defend myself. How am I supposed to provide footage disproving an incident that I maintain never happened? Surely the person making the allegation, or the staff member relying on it, should be able to provide something to substantiate it.

Furthermore, Maverick openly admits that he is unsure whether I was responsible for the alleged LTAP, stating that he does not know if it was me or someone else. Why is this even being brought into the discussion? If the staff member responsible for the original punishment cannot confidently identify who committed an alleged violation, then it should not be treated as something that reflects negatively on me. Uncertainty is not evidence, and someone else's potential misconduct should not become part of my disciplinary record.

Regarding my microphone, I have already acknowledged that it was malfunctioning. I was asked to fix it, and I did. I am not denying that there was an issue. However, I fail to see how a microphone malfunction, which I addressed when requested, somehow contributes to proving the much more serious allegations being made against me.

Now, regarding your response specifically:

You mention that you have reviewed the logs, but you have not actually explained what those logs demonstrate. You mention my track record, but you have not explained how it establishes that I committed any of the specific violations being discussed. You say that you are not personally convinced that my ban should be shortened or overturned, but you have not provided a single concrete explanation addressing why the original accusations should be considered substantiated.

Frankly, this is an extremely disappointing way to handle an appeal.

A staff member's personal impression of someone should never take precedence over the actual evidence surrounding a punishment. Having a previous disciplinary history does not automatically make every future accusation true. I should not have to spend the entirety of this appeal fighting against assumptions about my character instead of being given the opportunity to address the actual allegations.

What makes this even more frustrating is that you are asking ME to provide clips and witnesses while seemingly overlooking the fact that the original staff member should have been able to substantiate the accusations that resulted in my punishment. The burden should not be shifted onto the person appealing simply because staff cannot provide a clear explanation of their own allegations.

I am not asking you to take my word as absolute truth. I am asking you to demonstrate that the decision being made is based on something more substantial than recollections, assumptions, and personal opinions.

If you have reviewed the logs, then please explain which specific logs support which specific accusations. If there is footage of me shooting people, provide it. If there is footage of me on a rooftop, provide it. If there is evidence that I resisted detainment, explain precisely what happened and when. If there is no definitive evidence identifying me as the person responsible for the alleged LTAP, then stop bringing it up as though it establishes anything about my conduct.

I would also like to know whether you have actually questioned Maverick about these inconsistencies or simply accepted his recollection of events without further verification. Because from the outside, it genuinely looks like the accusations have been accepted at face value, while my responses have barely been acknowledged.

I find it particularly ironic that I am being asked to provide evidence to make my case more convincing when I have already identified specific allegations that appear to be based on uncertainty and have explicitly requested the evidence behind them. That request has still not been meaningfully addressed.

At this point, I would like both you and Maverick to provide an actual explanation rather than continuing to go in circles.

I expect answers to the following:

1. What specific evidence demonstrates that I was randomly shooting players?

2. Where is the footage supporting the claim that I was shooting people from a rooftop?

3. What exactly am I alleged to have done while supposedly resisting detainment?

4. What evidence establishes that I was responsible for the alleged LTAP, considering Maverick himself admitted he was unsure?

5. Which specific logs have you reviewed, and what do they demonstrate?

6. Have these allegations been independently investigated, or has the appeal simply relied on the original staff member's recollection?

7. How exactly does my previous track record establish that the specific allegations in this case are true?

I do not think these are unreasonable questions. They are the absolute bare minimum I would expect to be answered when someone is being punished and is attempting to appeal that punishment.

I would strongly suggest that the staff involved take another look at this situation, because the way this appeal has been addressed so far does not inspire confidence in the quality or impartiality of the review process.

I am genuinely tired of having to repeatedly explain the same things while receiving responses that avoid the actual points being raised. If the evidence exists, show it. If the allegations are substantiated, explain how. If they are not, then I expect that to be acknowledged rather than having assumptions continuously used against me.

I am not asking for a favour, special treatment, or an unearned second chance. I am asking for a fair and evidence-based review. That should not be an unreasonable expectation, and it certainly should not require me to repeatedly ask staff to substantiate the accusations they are using to justify keeping me banned.

I would appreciate an actual response addressing the points above, rather than another statement about my track record, your personal opinion of whether I deserve to be unbanned, or a request for me to somehow prove that allegations without supporting evidence never happened.

Thank you for your time, and I sincerely hope you have an absolutely wonderful day!

I also hope that, perhaps next time, a little more time and attention can be dedicated to actually reviewing the allegations, examining the evidence, and addressing the concerns being raised rather than relying on personal impressions, vague recollections, and an individual's previous track record. I understand that thoroughly investigating something may be considerably more demanding than writing a paragraph explaining why you personally don't feel someone deserves an unban, but I would like to believe that this is not too much to expect from the people entrusted with handling disciplinary appeals.

I would also like to thank Maverick for providing such a wonderfully detailed recollection of events, particularly the parts where he apparently isn't entirely sure whether I was involved, but somehow those uncertainties have still managed to become part of the discussion surrounding my punishment. Truly reassuring.

Hopefully, both of you will find the time to revisit this appeal and provide something a little more substantial than what has been presented so far. A proper explanation, actual evidence, and answers to the questions raised would be a refreshing change of pace.

Until then, I will eagerly await a response that addresses the substance of this appeal rather than another beautifully worded explanation of why my previous track record apparently makes evidence and due consideration optional.

Once again, have a wonderful day! I certainly hope the remainder of it goes considerably better than this appeal review has.