HellHound PK Appeal

[HellHound]

Character's name & rank: Leutnant Klaus Volkier von Fuches

SteamID32: STEAM_1:1:32160514

Staff member who issued the PK (if you know):  No clue!

Explain why you were PK'd: I'm going to assume it was due to FearRP, which I can assume is 100% fair if this gets denied. 

Why should you be un-PK'd?: 

My PK comes from myself shooting a Heer/Wehr/whatever Colonel in the face for attempting to Arrest and Detain me illegally whilst I was doing my Job as a member of the Kaisers Guard.

under the PK Guidelines of Rules 2 and 6
1. One may not purposefully subject someone to a situation in which they would fall under Valid PK Guidelines and 2. One may not PK someone for simply doing their Job. 

What had happened was, the Consul was within the Bendlerblock, and thus, the Kaisers Guard were called to protect him. I was returning back from the ICC main gate in checking to see if any of my Soldiers were still outside of it, to which, there were none

A Colonel decided to get uppity with me, After I told him I both do not answer to him, and that I have a job to do. He decided whilst I had my weapon out already and on safety, to attempt to have me illegally arrested for doing my job in my role as an Officer of the Kaisers guard whilst returning to my men in the Bendlerblock to continue doing my job, At the time He had his pistol on me and I believe one other did as well and if Memory serves, I managed to drop them both as they attempted to Arrest and Detain me in which I was then shot by bystanding Soldiers. 

However, by Putting me under Fear RP for trying to do my job, I feel the Invalid Guidelines of Rules 2 and 6 were broken.



Additional Information:

If anyone has the video proof please send it here lmao, even if I don't get unPK'd I still want the video for the meme

Edited November 1 by HellHound

[Hound]

23 hours ago, HellHound said:

[U:1:64321029]

This is not a valid Steam ID.

[Mr History]

Hello,
You have been PKed due to FearRP.

You were surrounded by 5 People attempting to detain you, with 4 of them having a gun pointing towards your head. However, you decided to start shooting, resulting in your being killed in the process. Hence, your character was killed due to PK the guildline.
Regarding your questions, they are not PKing you for simply doing their job; they were detaining you. You deciding to break FearRP resist the detain, and then dying in the process has resulted in the death of your character.

[Spooks]

Hello HellHound,

I was the staff member that PK you and got approval from @Mr History.

You were PK'd because you Broke FearRP while 5 military members were holding guns at you, detaining you and you tried to kill them but died in the process. (the evidence is below)

Another thing is that regarding the PK guidelines that you brought up, "One may not purposefully subject someone to a situation in which they would fall under Valid PK Guidelines". I think you are a little confused about this as this means that you can't bait people into a PK for Example: Using OOC means bringing someone into the city to get them killed or Getting someone to move and then shooting them after moving to get them PK'd for not following orders while not under FearRP. For the other rule, "One may not PK someone for simply doing their Job". I think you are confused with this one, too as it means that you won't be PK'd for doing what you were ordered to (depending on the order) or guarding a meeting. After all, I hope this helps you understand the PK guidelines better.

Evidence:
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iYNEQUDV7Y_GvBuXw?invite=cr-MSxlZEUsMjM4NjAxNTIs

[HellHound]

7 hours ago, Spooks said:

Hello HellHound,

I was the staff member that PK you and got approval from @Mr History.

You were PK'd because you Broke FearRP while 5 military members were holding guns at you, detaining you and you tried to kill them but died in the process. (the evidence is below)

Another thing is that regarding the PK guidelines that you brought up, "One may not purposefully subject someone to a situation in which they would fall under Valid PK Guidelines". I think you are a little confused about this as this means that you can't bait people into a PK for Example: Using OOC means bringing someone into the city to get them killed or Getting someone to move and then shooting them after moving to get them PK'd for not following orders while not under FearRP. For the other rule, "One may not PK someone for simply doing their Job". I think you are confused with this one, too as it means that you won't be PK'd for doing what you were ordered to (depending on the order) or guarding a meeting. After all, I hope this helps you understand the PK guidelines better.

Evidence:
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iYNEQUDV7Y_GvBuXw?invite=cr-MSxlZEUsMjM4NjAxNTIs

I mean fair enough, All I wanted out of this really was getting the video cause It's funny as fuck. 


Additionally I appreciate the reiteration on how the PK guidelines fully work, It's been years since I was staff on any 1942 LARP


however I was still being Illegally detained for doing my job, which is why I figured the PK couldn't apply because it came from me trying to do my job

Edited November 4 by HellHound

[Coffee]

Denied.

You were surrounded by four members of the Military and they had their guns pointed at you and you decided to pull out your gun and start shooting and then you died.

You fell under the PK guideline "Being killed while not abiding by Fear-RP".