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Denied. After reviewing the full context of this appeal, including your responses, the original request, and the relevant IC events, I'm denying this appeal. The PK was valid, justified, and executed with sufficient cause based on your character's conduct. Let's be absolutely clear, this PK was not issued solely because of the trial or PCO denials. That situation was handled with a demotion, a fine and time in jail. But facing consequences in court does not grant you immunity from further IC retaliation, especially when your actions after that trial continued to escalate against the NSB. The NSB, more than any other faction will persue further action against you, legal or illegal. If your behavior towards the NSB then continues to pose a threat after the trial. Then you are certainly not protected by that trial, you were warned by it. If anything, the court outcome placed your character under increased scrutiny. What followed was repeated defiance, intelligence gathering on the NSB, obstruction and ultimately fleeing NSB custody during a military led breach this fully justified an IC response from the NSB beyond any legal proceedings. At that point it becomes entirely reasonable for the NSB to want to murder your character. You don't get to provoke the NSB repeatedly, get broken out of their custody by armed members of the military and then argue you should still be safe because you complied "eventually". Your decision to leave with them, regardless of intent is what made this PK justifiable along with your other actions. On top of that, there was an active case file detailing your conduct, including your internal statements referring to the NSB as kidnappers and criminals. That's not going to be taken lightly that's seen as a declarion of hositilty against the NSB, and it further supports the justification that your character had entered open opposition against the NSB.

Denied. The server logs confirm that you were present on the server at the time of the incident. Additionally, there is a clip that clearly shows you breaking fear RP when the military were trying to arrest you, which directly led to your death.

Much of the argument presented here hinges on selective framing, misdirection, and minimizing context. Let's address the points directly: You're downplaying what was a clear, consistent effort to monitor NSB activity far outside the normal bounds of your role. While you claim it was “within jurisdiction,” the information being gathered wasn’t isolated to internal military affairs, it intersected repeatedly with NSB operations and personnel which we had obtained. You may not have issued formal orders, but the behavior formed part of a larger pattern of overreach and obstruction, especially after a prior conviction. PKs are not just about a single illegal act, they’re about cumulative behavior that becomes untenable. This was part of that. It’s only broad because the list is long. Post-trial, you continued to act in defiance, challenging detainment, refusing to provide documentation, resisting lines of questioning, and generally obstructing process (I specifically knew you'd react this way, which is why I pushed you in this direction.). Whether you felt justified doesn’t change the pattern of IC resistance that, over time, made your position indefensible. You were not targeted arbitrarily, you were given multiple chances to deescalate and work with me. You chose not to. You’re omitting what actually happened. You were broken out by armed individuals during an MOI breach and left the building with them. Whether you walked or were “told to leave at gunpoint” is not the issue—the issue is that you left at all. That behavior, in combination with prior escalation, is what sealed the PK. Whether Reto's PK was later appealed doesn’t change that your involvement in the breach was real and actionable. You’re treating this appeal as if it’s a court trial. It’s not. PKs are not decided on who “technically” committed a crime, they’re based on sustained, unrecoverable character trajectories that make continued RP what it is. I can argue technicalities all day, because I almost certainly think I am right in this situation, but that's not my point here. You had multiple high-profile infractions, were given multiple second chances, and continued to escalate, and they were all written down and verified. I was able to match your behavior to crimes committed, and got a PK approved because of that.

The character's description in the clip exactly matches the description for John Leon. I highly doubt staff would not only PK the wrong person, but that this "wrong person" would have the exact same faction and description as John Leon. I'm also going to go out on the limb and say someone did not hack into your Steam account, boot up Garry's Mod, join Prometheus Networks, and then start RPing as John Leon.

well that not my voice i dont sounds like that

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https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kxt1fhwOTwd5BT3oG?invite=cr-MSxsVDIsMjU0MDQ3NDcw Logs show you playing on the server all throughout this time period.

"Collecting and logging information on NSB" - Collecting statements and making reports isn't something I'd consider PKable. That's my job, and nothing was acted upon. Also, everything I made a report on was within my jursidction, whether it be violations of military policy, internal conflicts, or witness statements from military personnel. I never explicitly ordered information to be collected on NSB personnel; the only information I had gathered was when it related to witness statements from the military. "Publicly defied and antagonized NSB" - Super broad, I really don't even know what to say about this one given how broad that is. If anything I believe the reverse is truer as I have not been able to do much with my department after being repeatedly harassed by the NSB whether it be them trying to take me to trial, give up military documents, and or just accusing me of baseless things. Every time I am brought into the MOI it seems I am there from 2-5 hours each time as they repeatedly ask the same questions of me. It seems the NSB and the MOI as a whole publicly defied the War Marschall's marshal law and attempted to try me in a non-military court despite the siege law being enacted. "Present at the scene of an NSB agent's assassination" - I was in the cells and was instructed to leave at gunpoint. I willingly returned after I was requested to come back. Furthermore, Reto's PK was appealed, so a huge portion of this reason seems to be based on an overturned RP event.

Character's name & rank: John leon Polizeihauptdiener (STEAM_0:X:XXX): 76561198860042813 Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Explain why you were PK'd: I don’t know why I was PK. I wasn’t on at all. I was in LA from the 19th to the 22nd. I couldnt have done anything on the 21st. Just want to clear it up. Why should you be un-PK'd?: I think I should be un PK because I wasn’t on when it happened. I was in LA from the 19 to the 22, so I didn’t do anything on the 21. I didnt break any rules and just want to clear it up. Additional Information: my mother can vouch that i was in la

Accepted. Make a ticket in game requesting for a member of UA to unblacklist your flags when you're next on the server.

Thank you for taking the time to make this appeal. I was not aware that the reverend wanted you to move the car, as you have not stated it to me. All you said was "Oh me and my friend were just fucking around" and "I didn't kill anybody". From my perspective, as I was no-clipped, u had pushed a car with a prop and had hit someone. And when I looked at your notes, there was one from May reading "Prop abuse, take flags next offense". Regarding the issue with my inactivity, I had forgotten to unfreeze you to bring you to a sit. Now I understand that it was non-peak hours with nobody at the base, and you just wanted to have some fun. But you do have to understand that props aren't supposed to be used for those purposes. Therefore, I do support your appeal as I was not aware of Reverend's order. Thanks Misterbaseball99

+1 I asked him to move a vehicle which we were using for formation training. We were doing a state funeral, and the car was being used for us to move around it to simulate funeral transport. It was in the way though so I asked for it to be moved.

I'm pretty sure I was here... And I didn't see any car flinging from Avery... +1

Name: Avery SteamID32: STEAM_0:1:239480338 Staff Member who issued the Flag Blacklist: misterbaseball99 Explain why your flags were blacklisted: I pushed a car into someone. Explain why your flags should be unblacklisted: I'm going to rewrite what happened as I don't know how else to open this. I was inside the KG base with probably 8 other people, half of those people I knew. The KG chief told me to move a kubelwagon to the front of the building. I started pushing the kubelwagon with my physgun using a prop soda can to move it from the stairs of the Pantheon to the direct front of the actual Lichterfeld building itself to him. There was no other way for me to move it as the car was locked and I couldn't get in it. One person walked directly infront of this car, knocking him over, but not killing him. At some point this car is flung, not sure why, and it hits the wall somewhat violently but does NOT explode it. After this happens I am then frozen for an extended period of time, no words are exchanged to me why I am froze, so I am stuck like this for a short period of time until I was unfrozen. Another period of time passes, this time shorter, where I am suddenly teleported into a sitroom with misterbaseball99. Another half of a minute to 45 seconds pass with no interaction when misterbaseball finally states that I am in a sitroom for flinging a car. I was trying to gauge at what the issue is but to no avail as I seemingly was talking to a wall. A past note was brung up, which is probably 2 months old by now about a different situation where I flung a car although in extremely different conditions than this (the conditions being it was an area with RP going on, etc etc, I deserved it). Because of this note, despite me trying to talk some sort of sense into misterbaseball, my points are not listened to and my flags are taken. I've had flags for probably about a year and a half, maybe 2, with only other one infraction about them being the prior note. I feel like getting flags taken in a situation like what I explained is odd, and there was definitely a separate avenue of dealing with this. Additional Information: N/A.

Denied. Hello, thank you for making an appeal. I'll clarify why the PK remains valid. In the clip, you were alone and outnumbered outside the ICC garage, and you were being surrounded and arrested by the military, Instead of surrendering, you then opened fire on the military members who were arresting you. This is you clearly initating a gunfight, and you died as a direct result. That makes the PK valid. Also while we appreciate you putting time into your character, that does not exempt you from the consequences of your actions.

Denied. Hello, thank you for your response. I'll address your points and clarify why the PK remains valid. Firstly, let's talk about the situation itself. You were positioned outside the ICC, and from what I can tell, you were attempting to arrest a member of the infantry. When that individual moved way, by your own admission, you escalted the situation by pulling out your pistol and firing a shot at the member of the infrantry. Whether or not your weapon was directly aimed aimed what them when the shot was fired is not the key issue here. The fact remains that you discharged your weapon in the direction of a the military member and opened fire on them outside of the ICC. That is clear initiation of a gunfight, even if it was only one shot fired. Also your claim that the shot "would have hit the wall and done no harm" does not exempt you from anything, espcially when the clip shows that you clearly moved your aim from the wall to the military member. You should know that shooting someone is universally seen as agressive, especially when aimed towards members of the military that are outside their own base. You also say that you were not pointing your gun at anyone, but again the clip clearly shows otherwise and you were clearly pointing your gun at the military member and you shot him, in a situation that did not even require that amount of force when you consider the context that you were heavily outnumbered outside the ICC trying to make an arrest on a military member. You also argue that the person who PK'd you was "divorced from the situation" and you could not hear what was going on. That's just missing the point. The person who killed you witnessed you open fire on members of the military outside the ICC, and from their perspective, like most people in that scenario, you had just started a gunfight. So then from a military point of view, seeing someone shoot another member of the military is more than enough to engage them with lethal force. People don't need to ask questions first when bullets are already been fired. You also mentioned that if you were trying to start a gun fight, you would have followed the NCO. Again, it's not about your internal logic, it's about what your observable actions looked like to others. If you shoot at someone, people around you are going to react accordingly. Now, on what could have been done. If you truly believed the infantry member was breaking a law or needed to be arrested the peoper course would have been to accept that he got away in this particular situation as you were heavily outnumbered and he was practically inside his base, so realistically you would not have been able to make the arrest . Then you should have done the following: 1. Get their description and rank. 2. Note any other indentifying details. 3. Write a formal report. 4. Report the incident to the NSB. 5. Then pursue them through a written warrant. Instead, you decided to escalate the situation by shooting the military member outside of his own base when you were heavily outnumbered. That's why you got PK'd. Lastly, you say this isn't a conventional "gunfight PK" But gunfights don't need to last 5 minutes, include over 20 people or have multiple parties involved. Sometimes they're one sided and brief and they take place outside the ICC and one shot is all it takes to get killed. This PK was not issued on a technicality or misunderstanding, it was a direct result of your actions. You escalated a minor situation by involving lethal force, and you were met with lethal force in return.

This appeal misrepresents both the timeline and rationale behind the PK. First, the punishment received during the earlier trial (demotion, jail time which was never served, and a fine) was acknowledged, but that was not the primary reason the PK was issued. I initially requested a PK after that trial, but it was denied due to lack of final justification. That was fine. What changed was your behavior afterward. Over the following week, you continued to escalate: - You began collecting and logging information on NSB personnel without jurisdiction (we had evidence) - You publicly defied and antagonized the NSB. - You were present at the scene of an NSB agent’s assassination and then escaped our custody during an armed breach. (we had evidence and direct corroboration) Whether you planned the escape or not is irrelevant—what mattered was that you left willingly with armed individuals of which we had concrete evidence were not "2 lapo and 1 kg". That event was the final justification for the PK. It confirmed a pattern of active defiance, circumvention of consequences, and alignment with hostile elements. It wasn’t a random escalation, it was the culmination of everything leading up to that point. Not every detail can or should be disclosed due to its relevance to other players and ongoing roleplay. But the decision was reviewed, justified, and accepted, not based on a single isolated event, but a sustained pattern that I was able to prove. Your character was given multiple opportunities to walk back from the line. He kept sprinting past it. In my opinion, what I had was more than enough for your characters PK.

The KG left and you were the last guy there. In the clip all your friends were gone. You were surrounded and you responded to us. (even if you didn't understand us, our actions were obvious and you were being surrounded) After removing a prop obstacle in the way, we surround you and you start blasting us. None of your men arrived, that is just a lie. The whole thing was clipped. You were alone and would have lived if you didn't choose the dumb option. You died defending your honor I guess. (Clip shows everything including context, we had no intention of killing him until he started shooting under gun point and surrounded)

Hello! Thank you for your replies. Firstly, Jimmyjr thank you for clearing that up. The only reason why I put your name there is because although you made it clear in our sit that it wasn't you're pk it was instead a PK you approved for someone else you never told me who that was despite telling me upwards of 5 times you were the one who approved it for who I now know is Thomas. Sorry for the confusion. Secondly, Thomas if you review the clip from my PK at 17 seconds which is only a second before im killed you can see that im not in fact pointing my gun at anyone and rather im pointing my pistol at the furthermost half of the red wall on my left. If I had fired while my gun was in this position it would have been aiming at nobody and therefore would have hit the wall and done no harm. Although, I do not blame you for not seeing this as the footage is incredibly grainy due to the distance that person who pked me was to the situation that ended up getting my char banned. Which is another thing that id like to dispute. I don't think its right that someone who had divorced themselves from the situation on the ground, not even being able to hear the conversation what was happening should be able to PK someone over a situation that they don't have the context to. Especially when I made it clear I was not going to shoot again to people on the ground. Not only that but if I was intending to pursue any aggressive action logic dictates that I would have attempted to follow the NCO once he reached the red brick wall behind the checkpoint gate. Instead I stood where I was, not shooting at the NCO that was actively running away from me and the KG which if I was trying to start some sort of gunfight I wouldn't have done. Gunfights tend to have two sides firing multiple shots at one another over a prolonged period of time. A single shot and then no further acts of aggression I don't believe constitutes a gun fight. I think that my disengagement on a physical, although not verbal level had been well signalled to even someone standing far away from the actual situation. This all leads me to continue to believe that my Pk is not valid. If my Pk appeal is denied the only reason I can see would be on some technicality that I don't know of as its pretty clear this is not a conventional "gunfight pk".

Just to clarify I was alone in front of the MOI and thank you for the info about that. I was not aware that was classified as starting a gunfight.

I'll leave the rest for a member of UA, but for your point of C flags, I think you may just be retarded. No additional clarification is required, it's common sense. You cannot pull a car out of your ass. C flags are not there for you to spawn a car where you wouldn't have a car. Either need to be at your HQ, a garage, or sometimes just even somewhere secluded or even just around the corner so no one can see you spawn it. And the goal is to never spawn it in front of people when on a main road. Sometimes it's unavoidable, but in this instance, it definitely doesn't work. Also, that would count as starting a gunfight and dying btw, so if they had shot you, 100% you'd be PKd from that, I understand that's not what you'd be PKd for, but just thought I'd let you know.

Character's name & rank: Major Patrik Busch SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:1:98538901 Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Prime Explain why you were PK'd: I was PKd for allegedly denying 2 PCOs around 7-10 days ago respectfully due to IC reasons (them not being formatted properly and not having the correct information) as well as being broken out of the MOI by 2 LaPo and a KG. Why should you be un-PK'd?: First issue: This was already dealt with in court. I was demoted from an Oberst to an Oberleutnant, served 30 years, and paid a 100k Deutschmark fine. The first "denied" PCO was when there was a line through the signature of the PCO. I told the NSB officer to leave, get it fixed, and return. This was seen as a denial, and I was PCO'd for it. The other PCO was denied for not following an interpretation of an existing law. I was tried in court for this misinterpretation, and was found guilty, hence the punishment mentioned above. The other day I was PCOd and whilst in the cells I was broken out by 2 LaPo and a KG. I did not organize it and did admittedly leave, but when I was called back to the MOI I complied and returned. After I returned I successfully argued standing and was released. I just feel like they did not try every option with me before PKing me and that most of this PKs justification was based on the PCOs that was handled already. Additional Information: After being "released" from the MOI I spawned myself a car and tried to drive away. Upon driving towards the ICC I saw 2 "civilians" with mp40s out and ran them over with my car. Upon driving successfully past them I was frozen and my car deleted. I'm not sure what the point of C flags is if I cannot use them to transport myself from one far location to another. Seems there probably should be some more clarification on that.

This is a no-brainer. They have been legitimised by documents from the Interior Minister, NSB, etc. They basically exist already. +1

Hi, I was the one that handled the PK and then got it approved by JimmyJr. Although you claim that the shot is accidental and you had no intent to start a gunfight your intent is not what is the problem it is the impact of it. You still fired a shot which hit a member of the military in front of other members of the military which constitutes a gunfight. It doesn't matter if it is deliberate or accidental you just simply need to learn trigger discipline. As also shown in the clip you continue to aim at the NCO and even aim in which to others signals that you are most likely going to do another shot.

Hello, I want to make something clear, I wasn't the one who PK'ed you, but another staff member had PK'ed you and I had approved it. I approved it cause in the clip you shot at the military guy which when the other military CO saw you, he shot back. Now for you saying you might had accidentally shot him, that could be true or just a lie. It could have really been an accident but from the POV of the guy who requested the PK on you, he doesn't know that.