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That's fine! That's part of the Context! OOC'ly irrelevant, but gives a wider picture! Not really PK hunting or revenge RP...guess the latter would fit for a different person which is someone with grievance, but in this case it falls within the rules. ImperialRP Rules FearRP Rules While under FearRP you are required to oblige by the commands of your captor. If you attempt to escape or pull out a weapon to fight back but are killed that would then display a disregard for your own safety. This is a calculated risk you took, or a denial to value your own life, which will result in your PK. The other rules support it. There was reason to detain you, there was cause, there was no baiting. The Warning number is irrelevant when the context here shows you've acknowledged that you are being detained and under Gunpoint by multiple people. The rules go against people who try to get someone shot for banality. (A.E, Person gets detained ,he was told to not look at the individual in question. He turns around to look at him and gets shot. "Bad PK") In here it was (Person is talked to. Then placed under Gunpoint with intent to detain. Person acknowledges during escape and decides to voice his acknowledment by (it won't be happening and consequently gets shot for not valuing his life.) PK Guidelines -Government PK Guidelines Being killed while not abiding by Fear-RP [PK]
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Hi! I was the one who spoke to you during that time, while the one with the Clip requested the PK. - (context) You actively deserted from the Military using a dubious method, with a Justice Minister preemptively getting yourself a Pardon for desertion, which, quite frankly, was odd to me at the time, and the crimes before the situation that were committed. - PK Hunting is when you are forced into situations where your goal is to be PK'd with no intent to RP. In this Instance, you were being detained and brought before a Court of Law. However, after being told you would be arrested, your very first action was to immediately act on it, Quote / Generalmajor Matheus Johan Weiss: Detain him. Chefinspektor Frank Heinz: Detain me? Well, that's not going to happen. / And started running inside, where a whole group of people was present, compared to our isolated area in front of the Reichstag. Keep in mind, this isn't a Ruleplay serverβcontext matters. If a person were to have a Pistol shoved into their face while being surrounded by others with clear intent, one would fear for their life and stay still. Instead, you even commented on the attempt while it was running, showing that you fully understood the situation. -The burden of the PK in this case lies on you for disregarding the fear for your life through the intent to escape detention while actively under gunpoint. -Last Resort (Not applicable as a point since it was your actions that brought this situation forward) I wish you good luck with your Appeal!
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Semantics. You Facilitated it in full to the point of bringing them there physically. The major proponent of your death comes from your general actions taken and does not rest solely on that Person. Likewise, you approached the Person yourself. Right. Let's have the Chief of the Feld or Deputy Chief of the Heer trialed by a GRENADIER. Maybe have a assistant in the state trial a Minister for the Hell of it. Or maybe have random dude go in and trial some Crown official. Yes, i have (just) exaggerated to prove a point here. A Grenadier who declares on his own that he can trial people is not going to trial people. That's genuinely moronic. This is my last word on the matter.
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One more Individual that was being actively sought out to be arrested. Illegally since there was already a Warrant out for ihm. And likewise, none of them had approval from the Main office. So. Yes. Illegal A Lie. The Individual in question presented an entirely different situation. And your Prior action where you gain access through dubious ways into MGD information regarding you and you investigating it paints a different picture. Answered in previous. A Literal grenadier presented himself as a Richter. A **Grenadier**. Having tried to trial you the day prior ended up with the KM intervening and shutting it down. Today, we tried to trial you but with no success. I agree! I don't mind that you were standing your ground! It was fun! Though the problem is when it is a situation where you are actively acting against the Factions, I am managing to the point of a Case-File being built and you being investigated. The KM route was made and was deflected. The Courts were once again hours on end absent. As such, the request was made and executed upon.
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Hi! I am the Person who requested a PK on your Character! There was more in regards to your PK, and there were more conflicts in the recent activity which included also actively going after Individuals within the MGD, making Transfers that weren't *just* two people of which some of them were illegal outright e.t.c. You've also have been consistently going after Classified Information and were threatening MGD operatives. ou've also have made actions that destabilized my Command and Department. Your Actions have effectively been equivalent to a active threat within the Military against the Intelligence Branch while higher authorities intervened on your behalf during a time of War. Due to the Active nature of the RP, i can't fully disclose things on the Forums. However, it was multiple actions that forced me to have you eliminated.
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bruh
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+1 YES!
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Why ping me? Also, if you were Unbanned, please refer to Upper Administration.
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+1 See the applicant active, engaged within roleplay and had only positive experience
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Not gonna repeat myself. I am informing you of what the IC reason was. And yet, thank you for ignoring my concerns about your behaviour.
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To point out very bluntly. You were fired because the Right Leadership did not let you in. Only the Chief and Deputy can put in Officers. Though having Dragos harass me, you then attacking me, calling me a (nonce) which essentially means Pedophile in RP and essentially having a crash-out... yeah. Not a good choice to do. For the Generalmajor's reason, i indeed spoke to him about you prior, but WHY you got fired was IC as aforementioned. As to point out your Purchased rank's specification: The listed ranks are for Military, however it will transfer to the equivelent for any other faction. After creation you may transfer out to another faction rank equivalent if you wish to do so. (With IC approval).
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According to what I was told and informed by people who were present, you still actively acted against me, including the people you affiliated with. Not only that, but I was also told that you were present during the Situation in my Office. WIth people who were also responsible for trying to get me killed, with who you actively worked with.
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Hi! The PK was approved by GA. According to what was provided to me, the contrary was shown. Due to the ongoing RP, I can't provide precise information about everything. Still, in general, your death is attributed to the simple notion that you were already acting against the Interior Minister. As for your PK issue during your tenure as Karl Becker, you were not in a position to request an NHC PK accordingly. The Notion that you weren't *liked* is personal from your perspective. When taking over as Interior Minister, I treated everyone with the same distance and behaviour as necessary. Inherently, it has nothing to do with *liking* but with your actions leading to me requesting a NHC PK on you. Nonetheless, I wouldn't classify your actions as *loyal*. Thank you!
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Hi! To clarify. We had evidence of you deserting and during the interrogation, you confessed to "resigning" from the Kaisergarde and later made it clear that you deserted through the way you spoke about how you found your way to the Armed forces. Usually when there is UA approval, there is a certain Contextual understanding to why it is approved. As the UA deemed it fitting, you were PK'd for your actions & the one's you may have attributed to. Nonetheless, good luck on your appeal!
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Jebidiah Jackson III, Pk was approved before staff even seen the clip.
Saito replied to Dr.Spuddzy's topic in Accepted
... (don't turn around. don't face me) can be heard in the medal clip. You could've just stopped moving, making it MY responsibility in what happens next. Yet you didn't. -
Jebidiah Jackson III, Pk was approved before staff even seen the clip.
Saito replied to Dr.Spuddzy's topic in Accepted
Hi! You were PK'd under the Guideline (Being killed while not abiding by Fear-RP). As shown in the Clip, I came up to you with the intent of detaining you. I pulled out my Gun and ordered you not to move nor turn around to try to get you detained. You continuously broke that said commandment. I gave you ample time to not move. From my perspective of myself in this situation, you need to keep in mind that the idea of the said order is to make sure YOU don't pull out and revolver me in the face in retaliation while I make my arrest. However ,you continuously ignored it, risking your life in the process by disobeying my orders for a prolonged time. In the aftermath of the situation, I made a ticket but noticed that there was barely any staff on. Due to that, I reached out to a staff member on Discord who was a Member of UA (Prime) and asked him if he could check if that would be a PK. I wish you good luck on your appeal! EDIT: (Just noticed. You added the wrong type of SteamID. The SteamID that is required for the Appeal is: STEAM_0:0:576903609) -
Hi! I was the Staff Member who banned you! First off, please reformat your SteamID32 as this is the wrong format. Going on about the Appeal: Generally, in the Pantheon Button room, there is a very BIG WALL OF TEXT (https://gyazo.com/5ffdc6a8a32fafeb9744ea49fe6506fb) that states that you will be punished severely if you were to use them without authorization, so the "there was no warning or anything about the buttons" is a lie. The sounds can be heard across the entire Map and, as such, are punished accordingly. In terms of the "accomplice", I tried to find the second guy, but I couldn't triangulate it in the Logs properly. It is always recommended to see and look at the surrounding if there are any warnings e.t.c plastered near a Area. This signifies if a area or "button" is something that staff usually flock to like hounds and immediately act upon. I checked and you are indeed a new player so i'd agree to at least lower it down to a day. P.S, if you COULD remember who was the second person, i'd be massively thankful if you find out and provide the name to me or another member of staff! Thanks and good luck on the Appeal!
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After Careful Consideration and deliberation with fellow members of the Community, you are compelled to "bake a Cake". Until then, I shall stay at a -1
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Hi! I was the person who authorized the PK! I spoke with the Person requesting the PK, and he explained to me why he used the word "stink." His explanation was the following: I've conferred with a member of Upper Administration @Gary as I also had my doubts; however, after having a conversation, the fact still is that you decided to disregard your life and die. You were PK'd under the Guidelines of a FearRP PK. Good luck on the appeal!
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1. It's not out of context. You said what you said. You made it clear that you wanted to resign anyways and it was brought up while concealing the personal part as I didn't wish to reveal parts of your personal life. That's your prerogative to provide more context to it if you are fine in revealing it. It isn't that deep. Precedence already exists of a single gunman killing a Person with more people around them. I am honestly not sure what you are trying to say here. You are also painting it as in me wanting to coup you simply because I don't like you for some reason which I didn't state. Coup's exist on UA approval with a reasoning provided to them specifically and it is to their discretion to decide if the justification is just. 2. ...What? Again, Jurgen Schmidt? Who is that? Gauleiter? What are you talking about... I don't even know what you are trying to say here since I always say that Gauleiter is a Useless Job. It's quite convenient how you forgot a deleted discord you took part in specifically for your own "protection" during your current term as MoW, but it seems you are just forgetful. And the last part I will just ignore since, again, you are regurgitating the same stuff over and over again. 3. People don't know about the extent of the PK, what was working in the background, what planning went into it, etc. You have your friend group, which is generally fine, and if they agree with you, that's amazing! However, in terms of a PK, it isn't "cleared" in your favor. I understand the frustration, as said multiple times, but sadly you are wrong. Feel free to check the edit I made to your quote above regarding said rules you brought up. Since you haven't provided any new relevant points, I will leave it as is. Hope for speedy final verdict from UA/GA
