Ban Appeal for Mical Jordin

[Mical Jordin]

Your Name: Mical Jordin

SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:0:198804620

Appeal Type (Apology or Dispute): Dispute

Which staff member banned you?: Elite

How long is your ban for?: 5d

Why were you banned?: "Fear RP, NLR, NITRP, MRDM, The stick can only bend so far"

Why do you deserve to be unbanned?: First, i was never brought to a sit regarding this ban, i was just hit with it not being able to give my part on anything that happened, not shown any clips. Previously was brought to a sit by elite for a pk which was justified. Every part of this situation was done with RP, at no point was there trolling, me just being a nuisance, etc, there was a group of lapo, and civis that had run into the base trolling members of the military purposely being annoying, instead of me making a ticket on this i decided to kick them out of the base within RP, the military officers with no back bone also joined in with the trolls because there was nothing else they could do, i told everyone to get out of the icc, in which they did not, and i gave them plenty of time to, i opened fire, continued out of the airfield in which they were still in my path trolling, instigating, tying me, etc, i told a fella if he attempts to tie me again i will open fire, he then tried to tie me again and i gave him a couple love taps to the head in which he died, i said if anyone else aims a gun at me i will fire upon them. At no point did i mass rdm, i killed mass amounts of ppl, but all in RP, from what i know the clips don't even show any context besides me shooting, but its not like i would know since i never got informed of me being banned, and at no point did i commit NITRP, because at no point was i trolling or not rping, literally the whole situation was based of rp and me kicking trolls out, in which i did with giving them many chances, i had never just opened fire unless i had incredibly good reason to believe i was going to be shot, the only situation where i could even imagine someone would think is RDM is when i was running out the airfield after a gunfight and a military officer that was pretty much rouge had cut me off with his gun out making a attempt to arrest me. 

There was a moment where elite and augustus had froze me when i was telling kg to get out with them at gun point after i had shot a officer of the lapo who had refused to get out after i gave them more then 8 seconds to leave, which was apparently RDM.

A different situation where a military officer was attempting to make a arrest on me for wtv reason, i gunned him down, but i guess thats rdm to!

To sum it up, Fear RP isnt a ooc rule, NLR, was never broken as i was the one approached each time. NITRP was never committed because the whole time it was literally based off a rp situation of the lapo and civis being inside with rouge military cos supporting them, in which i kicked them out, then they tried to detain me, and i fought back, MRDM was also never committed because i had justification for killing anybody that i did, and any clips that show me shooting people must not show the context to it, and if at any point rdm was committed it was not in mass a purely a mistake based on the high tense situation.

Additional Information: Overall this situation was handled poorly by Elite and in no way do i deserve a ban nevertheless a 5 day ban, and its to the point where the dude had to slap on Fear RP just to make it look more justified.

Also note i have no previous offenses and when in a call with elite after the fact he refused to provide any clips until i make the report because he doesn't know what situation I'm talking about even though i made contact with him 3 minutes at the most after the situation. Which has made it hard to provide a sufficient statement as i don't know what specific situation he is referring to.

If any ban is deserved, its not 5 days worth.

[Elite]

Hi, I'm the Moderator who banned you last night. I understand your frustration, but I'll put it simply,

In the Initial Situation you shoot a Millitary man at the Luftwaffe gate I didnt act as because I thought it was in RP, I saw you within 3 Seconds say 3 Words "Get out, Get out, Get out" to one individual which was unresponsive he was a good RPer all those there liked him. You decided to shoot him when he was clearly in his head. Okay lets say you were right for that lets look at other situations moments after, you yell at the Kaisergarde and Millitary command staff to get out of the ICC you didnt shoot them because they said okay were chill and so on to deescalate fine, as you're in the midst of Shooting others The Staff Moderator Agustus steps in to say in simple words " Dont do that" that Staff member gave you a chance to be carefull as we dont want to ban you or kick you from the server but there was ample amount of time to fix your mistakes.

Then Comes the Issue of when the a sizeble contigent of Millitary officers and their Soldiers aproach you watching you gun down, LAPO allowed in by a Major+ along side the KG and the one the KG was guarding, those Officers aproached you specifficaly because you gunned down at minimum 3 members 2 of them being Millitary members you didn't give them a chance you clearly tried to get around the Warning rule of telling someone to get out or back by saying it really quickly with in 2 seconds and then shooting them not arresting them shooting them for nothing. Those officers aproached they asked why you shoot them and you started a blabber of Accusations of having no Backbones, no capability to lead and blatant insults not to their Competance but to the player themselfs which fine it can be in RP and I dont blame you for that but because of your inability to adress and officer they ordered your arrest for shooting millitary members, and clearly Incompetance you thus around 10 or more people pull out your gun and shoot them all, which its your character and your choices but they have consequences which you must understand and aknowoledged and thus led to your death.

After that, those KG and Millitary go to the Airfield to detain you because you were blatantly from their perspective acting as a Minge and a troll, you start to shoot at them before they have even raised their guns initiating another gun fight without RP and no reason because you wouln't remmember what happend due to your death but you decided to shoot none the less. 

Which then I decided to take the PK ticket against you Do you know your own words " I Dont Care If I get Pked, I wont be banned " you have been playing this server for a long time you've gotten important positions and you need to be put in check you clearly disregarded the Rules, Disregarded the Player base's Honour and the Administrators of the server in which you play on, you showed a lack of acceptance of your Guilts and showed no remorse, Which I didnt act immidetialley to ban you, I said after the PK I will bring you to a sit so we can talk about the situation you had done which you agreed if I can recall. 

After that you logged off, Which fine you dont have to stay on for ever but it gave me time to ponder if you need a break from this server because the events of that day showed me you inabillity to change or maybe you dont wan't to conform to a server you're so important on, I respect you as a RPer but my duty to the Server and being Staff to ensure that all players atleast have some semblance of enjoyment on this server and RP is really important to me, along side the Rules of the Server which you've clearly disregarded.

Now let's talk about your History Mical Jordin.

I have seen many tickets 1 was RDM if not all of them against you, on your civy char to your current char to the Luftwaffe, I have almost begged you to change to ensure you follow the rules I even said one of the last time we spoke when it regarded a ticket against you, " Ensure you follow the rules " and so on I gave you mutiple if not far more chances any Admin of this server would have given a individual. I hoped you would have changed and I really did thats why I didnt ban you the last 3 tickets against you, You have important roles and thus vital to the Server in some what capacity I am a very lenient Staff member, I ensure I give you mutiple chances and I make sure you are worthy of a Ban or Ticket because the last thing I want is to ban a innocent man.

By all rights you have the ability to enjoy yourself and ensure that you can find something that fits you, but Shooting people, Acting like a Minge to some extend I will allow but when it comes to ensuring that Punishment are Handed out just and Honestly, I will admit it is Harsh not because I dislike the person or they way they RP or the Rule they have broken, Its simple when you break my Faith or any other Staff members faith in you which takes a lot, It shows you are unable to change or unwilling. I

I have given many MANY chances for you to change but you seem to not want to, By all rights you can have fun and mess around and excuse me for putting "Fearp " on your ban I had thought I had removed it but it did not.

I will say this, I respect the contribution you give the server but I certainly do not respect you for the Dishonour, the Harsh words and actions you bring to those people you are meant to enjoy this server on, and some actions simply cannot be overlooked. 

I was tempted to give you a minimum of 1 Week, But I have thought it was to harsh, to unjust and lowered to 5 days, because you dont want to change and I hope you do find it in your self to better yourself as clear disregard of the Server Rules and its Administrators will not be tolerated.

As always, I wish you luck in your future endeavors to better yourself. 

Elite - Senior Moderator

[Mical Jordin]

13 minutes ago, Elite said:

Hi, I'm the Moderator who banned you last night. I understand your frustration, but I'll put it simply,

In the Initial Situation you shoot a Millitary man at the Luftwaffe gate I didnt act as because I thought it was in RP, I saw you within 3 Seconds say 3 Words "Get out, Get out, Get out" to one individual which was unresponsive he was a good RPer all those there liked him. You decided to shoot him when he was clearly in his head. Okay lets say you were right for that lets look at other situations moments after, you yell at the Kaisergarde and Millitary command staff to get out of the ICC you didnt shoot them because they said okay were chill and so on to deescalate fine, as you're in the midst of Shooting others The Staff Moderator Agustus steps in to say in simple words " Dont do that" that Staff member gave you a chance to be carefull as we dont want to ban you or kick you from the server but there was ample amount of time to fix your mistakes.

Then Comes the Issue of when the a sizeble contigent of Millitary officers and their Soldiers aproach you watching you gun down, LAPO allowed in by a Major+ along side the KG and the one the KG was guarding, those Officers aproached you specifficaly because you gunned down at minimum 3 members 2 of them being Millitary members you didn't give them a chance you clearly tried to get around the Warning rule of telling someone to get out or back by saying it really quickly with in 2 seconds and then shooting them not arresting them shooting them for nothing. Those officers aproached they asked why you shoot them and you started a blabber of Accusations of having no Backbones, no capability to lead and blatant insults not to their Competance but to the player themselfs which fine it can be in RP and I dont blame you for that but because of your inability to adress and officer they ordered your arrest for shooting millitary members, and clearly Incompetance you thus around 10 or more people pull out your gun and shoot them all, which its your character and your choices but they have consequences which you must understand and aknowoledged and thus led to your death.

After that, those KG and Millitary go to the Airfield to detain you because you were blatantly from their perspective acting as a Minge and a troll, you start to shoot at them before they have even raised their guns initiating another gun fight without RP and no reason because you wouln't remmember what happend due to your death but you decided to shoot none the less. 

Which then I decided to take the PK ticket against you Do you know your own words " I Dont Care If I get Pked, I wont be banned " you have been playing this server for a long time you've gotten important positions and you need to be put in check you clearly disregarded the Rules, Disregarded the Player base's Honour and the Administrators of the server in which you play on, you showed a lack of acceptance of your Guilts and showed no remorse, Which I didnt act immidetialley to ban you, I said after the PK I will bring you to a sit so we can talk about the situation you had done which you agreed if I can recall. 

After that you logged off, Which fine you dont have to stay on for ever but it gave me time to ponder if you need a break from this server because the events of that day showed me you inabillity to change or maybe you dont wan't to conform to a server you're so important on, I respect you as a RPer but my duty to the Server and being Staff to ensure that all players atleast have some semblance of enjoyment on this server and RP is really important to me, along side the Rules of the Server which you've clearly disregarded.

Now let's talk about your History Mical Jordin.

I have seen many tickets 1 was RDM if not all of them against you, on your civy char to your current char to the Luftwaffe, I have almost begged you to change to ensure you follow the rules I even said one of the last time we spoke when it regarded a ticket against you, " Ensure you follow the rules " and so on I gave you mutiple if not far more chances any Admin of this server would have given a individual. I hoped you would have changed and I really did thats why I didnt ban you the last 3 tickets against you, You have important roles and thus vital to the Server in some what capacity I am a very lenient Staff member, I ensure I give you mutiple chances and I make sure you are worthy of a Ban or Ticket because the last thing I want is to ban a innocent man.

By all rights you have the ability to enjoy yourself and ensure that you can find something that fits you, but Shooting people, Acting like a Minge to some extend I will allow but when it comes to ensuring that Punishment are Handed out just and Honestly, I will admit it is Harsh not because I dislike the person or they way they RP or the Rule they have broken, Its simple when you break my Faith or any other Staff members faith in you which takes a lot, It shows you are unable to change or unwilling. I

I have given many MANY chances for you to change but you seem to not want to, By all rights you can have fun and mess around and excuse me for putting "Fearp " on your ban I had thought I had removed it but it did not.

I will say this, I respect the contribution you give the server but I certainly do not respect you for the Dishonour, the Harsh words and actions you bring to those people you are meant to enjoy this server on, and some actions simply cannot be overlooked. 

I was tempted to give you a minimum of 1 Week, But I have thought it was to harsh, to unjust and lowered to 5 days, because you dont want to change and I hope you do find it in your self to better yourself as clear disregard of the Server Rules and its Administrators will not be tolerated.

As always, I wish you luck in your future endeavors to better yourself. 

Elite - Senior Moderator

First off, where are the clips for any of this. You twisted up what happened to pretty much every extent. 

Every time that i had shot someone it was either after I had gave them plenty of time knowing they knew to leave but didnt, or they attempted to tie me, arrest me, etc.

You like to mention like they had reason to be there, or were justified in being there, etc, it frankly doesn't matter in the rules of RP. I had made attempts to kick them out multiple times before i had opened fire. 

You also take out of context my words when you stated that i said "I dont care if i get Pked I wont be banned" I said this because I had believed that you were attempting to ban me when you brought me in, I said it meaning, after that big situation, I was just glad i wasn't getting banned, because i knew i did nothing wrong.

You lie and say that i often get pulled into RDM tickets on my smaller characters, this is because my smaller characters are in manpower positions and i am constantly going out seeing what the hot action is and seeing what my dept is doing with it. 
If we want to talk about my history, i have 0 priors, anything that has happened has been appealed.
So please, show these clips.

[Elite]

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVNL3FpztzNNGXrc?invite=cr-MSxDY0EsMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVNaJ0VZJfZ_h-y1?invite=cr-MSxOQmosMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVOWRmHvaBvL9J16?invite=cr-MSxPVWgsMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kikApp6LLr2whPuho?invite=cr-MSxEMWIsMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVhMZX86V24d9zJa?invite=cr-MSxPWUksMzk5MTUwNzUx

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kiky6lhHJPlJzC__K?invite=cr-MSwxc1IsMzczNTM3MTM2

One you do have priors but not as many because im willing to give people chances, second half the guys I've caught you shooting was you on your civilian character or me watching you acting like a Minge and A Troll. 

 

Pardon me for any misundertandings, but I know what I see and I am not a Liar.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Elite

[Mical Jordin]

9 minutes ago, Elite said:

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVNL3FpztzNNGXrc?invite=cr-MSxDY0EsMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVNaJ0VZJfZ_h-y1?invite=cr-MSxOQmosMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVOWRmHvaBvL9J16?invite=cr-MSxPVWgsMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kikApp6LLr2whPuho?invite=cr-MSxEMWIsMzczNTM3MTM2

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/khVhMZX86V24d9zJa?invite=cr-MSxPWUksMzk5MTUwNzUx

https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kiky6lhHJPlJzC__K?invite=cr-MSwxc1IsMzczNTM3MTM2

One you do have priors but not as many because im willing to give people chances, second half the guys I've caught you shooting was you on your civilian character or me watching you acting like a Minge and A Troll. 

 

Pardon me for any misundertandings, but I know what I see and I am not a Liar.

 

First clip, dude was shooting me before i was frozen and while i was frozen, he clearly had intentions to kill me.

Second clip, again shows no context, the first lapo guy i shot was in the base for 30 minutes the whole time i was telling him to get out thats just when i pulled a gun. Also the 2nd lapo guy i killed, you cant hear the audio because a wall is blocking it, but while i was telling the police vice president to get out, he continued to say he had reason to be in there and to look at this(not sure what he was reffering to) i wasnt "quick" to shoot them at all, they were all theyre and had been refusing to get out.

The third clip literally shows nothing, they tried to arrest me, i had drugs on me, i opened fire, so this clip literally shows nothing.

Fourth clip shows me frozen by Augustus and me arguing my way to get me unfrozen, again a clip that shows literally nothing. 

Fifth clip shouldnt even be in there bc the dude who is talking to me doesnt have there mic audio in there, but again shows nothing, its me getting arrested so I killed every single one of them, last time i checked that only constitutes a pk for when i die, and i am not arguing the pk im arguing the ban.

Sixth clip is literally me getting pked, not sure why thats in there but whatever floats your boat.

Overall not ONE rule is broken in any of these clips and all kills were justified.

I want to reaffirm that i am not a minge, nor troll, just because I frequently get into combat situations where people get pissy. Elite simply likes to thrown in comments to make the ban seem more justified. nothing personal though.

If i could please see the missing clip that shows me breaking a rule that would be great.

[Elite]

The first part was of an OOC situation with you and Agustus which you then took it ICLY and Shoot him in the Back of the Head, the Second clip with the LAPO Guy I understand maybe you thought that shooting someone is justified maybe you did warn them beforehand all that was witnessed all the clip ssuplied to me and testimony of staff were you shooting them and I saw you shoot a person who wasnt moving for a Hot Minute which you didnt try to detain you shoot him, Which in any real life situation would you do that?? no you detain alright maybe your a bit rusty but it isnt a excuse to shoot millitary men and blatanly state that you wont be banned because its never a ban, It simply shows that you knew what you were doing and you understood the consequences.

The Sixth clip is to show that you clearly have no remorse for shooting anyone even when your in the wrong..

The Fourth clip is to debunk the accusation you made that you were not warned once about you shooting people.

Also here's the Audio of what that Millitary officer talking to you was trying to say. https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kim5JsvWEVmsq3OkG?invite=cr-MSxLYjksMzczNTM3MTM2 for the fith clip.

The Lapo guy was allowed, if you had tried to RP the Situation out you would have found out he was allowed, but you shoot him after he left your Base of Juristiction and shoot him on grounds where its millitary, It is with in RP and fair enough but you didnt try to detain any of them You did not try to talk to any of the officers you didnt try to ensure that you were in the right or try to RP with people you rather choose to shoot the LAPO guy and the start more altercation after you were killed mutiple times, let alone you coming back about 2 to 3 times breaking NLR..

 

Im happy we can discuss this Civily.

 

 

 

 

 

[AUGUSTUS]

I mean this respectfully, but you were actively killing military and non-military personal to the point the military the own faction which your character was apart of made a ticket on you for RDM/PK. When I confronted you on what was going on you proceeded to call me a slurry of rude names even when I was actively to specifically hear your side of the situation. It was so bad to the point someone broke character to tell you to stop being rude to the person trying to assist you which is absolutely astonishing. After being told to stop you immediately killed someone for literally no reason. Which culminated in Elite bringing you to a sit with 2 others.

[Mical Jordin]

10 minutes ago, Elite said:

The first part was of an OOC situation with you and Agustus which you then took it ICLY and Shoot him in the Back of the Head, the Second clip with the LAPO Guy I understand maybe you thought that shooting someone is justified maybe you did warn them beforehand all that was witnessed all the clip ssuplied to me and testimony of staff were you shooting them and I saw you shoot a person who wasnt moving for a Hot Minute which you didnt try to detain you shoot him, Which in any real life situation would you do that?? no you detain alright maybe your a bit rusty but it isnt a excuse to shoot millitary men and blatanly state that you wont be banned because its never a ban, It simply shows that you knew what you were doing and you understood the consequences.

The Sixth clip is to show that you clearly have no remorse for shooting anyone even when your in the wrong..

The Fourth clip is to debunk the accusation you made that you were not warned once about you shooting people.

Also here's the Audio of what that Millitary officer talking to you was trying to say. https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/kim5JsvWEVmsq3OkG?invite=cr-MSxLYjksMzczNTM3MTM2 for the fith clip.

The Lapo guy was allowed, if you had tried to RP the Situation out you would have found out he was allowed, but you shoot him after he left your Base of Juristiction and shoot him on grounds where its millitary, It is with in RP and fair enough but you didnt try to detain any of them You did not try to talk to any of the officers you didnt try to ensure that you were in the right or try to RP with people you rather choose to shoot the LAPO guy and the start more altercation after you were killed mutiple times, let alone you coming back about 2 to 3 times breaking NLR..

 

Im happy we can discuss this Civily.

 

 

 

 

 

You first mention that the it was a ooc situation took to ic when I shot him, that is completely not true. He was shooting me before I was frozen and spam shooting me while I was frozen then as he was reloading I was unfrozen and I shot him knowing he was going to shoot me.

then you go on to speak about how you understand now that there was context to me shooting the lapo guy, well I’m banned for it.

You also use the point that he was allowed in, he was allowed in by Ming’s military command who I had spoken to about this before the clip and has made attempts to get the officer the throw them out as they were being a complete troll. I was well aware they were “allowed in” which isn’t even true they broke in and military officers are scared of the slightest conflict. 
you also use the point to detain, there was no way in hell I would’ve ever in the situation try to detain when they have a goon squad of 10 people. That also branches off from my point that I had already told these guys to get out plenty of times beforehand.

and at no point did I state that I wouldn’t get banned because it’s never a ban, I stated that I’m not going to get banned but a pk, even if I did say that that’s not justification for banning me.

 

you say that I didn’t try to talk to these officers, oh are you talking about the officers that had tried arrest me? Yes I’m sorry let me hit that pause button and explain to them.

i had no reason to try to “talk to them and see if I was in the right” that’s stupid considering the situation.

 

 

[Mical Jordin]

23 minutes ago, AUGUSTUS said:

I mean this respectfully, but you were actively killing military and non-military personal to the point the military the own faction which your character was apart of made a ticket on you for RDM/PK. When I confronted you on what was going on you proceeded to call me a slurry of rude names even when I was actively to specifically hear your side of the situation. It was so bad to the point someone broke character to tell you to stop being rude to the person trying to assist you which is absolutely astonishing. After being told to stop you immediately killed someone for literally no reason. Which culminated in Elite bringing you to a sit with 2 others.

Hi!

let’s start with your first point, you state that “it got so bad even a member of the military made a ticket on me” oh do you mean the guys that had been trolling and minging with the “general of lapo” (they called him that and leader of the arthritis something, minge bs)

also you what happened was you froze me, told me to stop shooting people, and I explained to you it was all in rp, then you let me go without saying something after that clearly showing I was in the right and I proved you wrong, like I’ve explained 10 times that guy who I “shot for no reason” was shooting at me before I got frozen, spam shooting me while I was frozen, and then when he was reloading I got unfrozen and I had plenty of reason to beleive he was going to continue shooting me.

i love how you just blatantly lie about the situation leaving the most crucial parts out to try and help your case, talking about I killed him for no reason without saying anything else.

the only slur I might’ve possibly called you is retard and I’m not even sure I did that, if I did it was due to the highly tense situation and that is the one thing I am sorry for.

[alex.]

Just now, Mical Jordin said:

the only slur I might’ve possibly called you is retard and I’m not even sure I did that, if I did it was due to the highly tense situation and that is the one thing I am sorry for.

no reason to apologize to the wonder twins here. 

2 hours ago, Elite said:

unresponsive he was a good RPer all those there liked him

"all those there liked him" is maybe the best additive reason i've heard for banning someone this year. 

3 hours ago, Elite said:

After that, those KG and Millitary go to the Airfield to detain you because you were blatantly from their perspective acting as a Minge and a troll, you start to shoot at them before they have even raised their guns initiating another gun fight without RP and no reason because you wouln't remmember what happend due to your death but you decided to shoot none the less. 

so wait you watched all of this alleged RDM nonsense, didn't stop him, and then started clutching your pearls when he won the subsequent gunfights in which they broke NLR to come back with the SOLE intent of killing/arresting him, as you yourself admitted. and for the record i can't find "acting as a Minge and a troll" in the NLR exemption section of the rules. maybe you can quote it to me. considering you didn't warn him for RDM (which does actually exempt NLR), did you tell them they could break NLR? is there a clip of that? 

3 hours ago, Elite said:

The Staff Moderator Agustus steps in to say in simple words " Dont do that"

Is this referring to when he was frozen in place with someone shooting at his head without any intervention from the guarantors of late-night-roleplay? or were you just "bending the stick" for him? 

2 hours ago, Elite said:

Pardon me for any misundertandings, but I know what I see and I am not a Liar.

frankly i dont think it matters because you are incomprehensible. please for the sake of the entire reader-base, put your big paragraph into ChatGPT or something and say "translate to English". 

 

You make so much mention of this love for RP and roleplay and how "dishono(u)rable" he's been by winning a gunfight, but even from just looking at the clips, your own admissions, and the lack of intuition, it appears that you love RP for certain people and have a clear contempt for others while you hide behind a shield of "leniency" that appears to just be selective enforcement. 

 

+1 won the gunfights so the salteaters whined. 

[Drakeniron]

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