Roleplay Reversion / Return to Basics

[Harrious B.]

For those of you who will actually look into this, you do not have to agree with any or all of these points to up this suggestion.

Put down the ones you like, and the ones you do not like, this is meant to be a display of what once was or what may be a good idea. Thanks.

 

 

 

Classic - It was like this before, and it really should have stayed like this.

Non Classic - It was never like this, but I think it would be good for balance or QOL improvement.

 

Ingame Mechanics;

 

1.  (Classic) Drugs are returned to vendor access instead of by the shipment. This saves time and removes half of the tedium to earning money, also making it possible to recover more quickly after a big purchase or an enormous fine.

2. (Classic) Revert drug prices - 6,500 DM per brick, 2,000 per processor - 850 per coke sold to the vendor.

3. (Classic) Add daytime area mugging protection (Ex. No mugging at Reichstag, in front of Police Station, MOI, etc.). You can still kidnap, but you cannot commit the action of mugging and taking items off a person in close proximity of a government building or facility, or out in the open of the Reichstag Garden. Where there are realistically going to be guards, you cannot just rob somebody.

Exception in numbers - If there are four or more of you, then assume you have the power to kidnap, take to a dark corner or alleyway, and then mug.

4. (Classic) Give vehicles more vroom vroom power. It's rather sad to deal with cars that can hardly go over curbs.

5. (Classic) Add back gramophones, recordings and car disc players. We really miss Du Bist So Zauberhaft. It added a fairly good atmosphere to the server.

6. (Classic) Submaterial, Stacker, Advanced Material - WONDERFUL at helping builders do their thing. Makes detailing so much easier.

 

 

 

State Legislation Reversion;

Legal System

- (Non Classic) Felonies expire or are immediately expunged upon finishing a contract service or conscription (2 weeks or longer) in a Military or Ministry of Interior faction, and going to a judge you are within the jurisdiction of to prove you can be released from conscription and choose either to continue your duty or leave the faction in question.

Firearms Law

- (Classic) Remove the Ministry of Interior from firearms regulation, let judges decide who can wield what weapons from among these classes as it used to be in old Prometheus and let the Ministry of Interior be the ENFORCEMENT of the licenses as they should have been;

Class 1 - Pistols / Sidearms

Class 2 - Revolvers, Shotguns and semi automatic weapons (Anti-Tank and explosive weapons not included)

Class 3 - Automatic weapons discluding machine guns, LMGs like the FG-42 are included in Class 3 but you still need Luftwaffe permission (Anti-Tank and explosive weapons not included)

(Non Classic) Class 4 - Unobtainable without Tier 5 Party membership and a signature on your permit by the head of your department or the next in command (YOU MUST BE GOVERNMENT), for collection or bodyguarding purposes only (Anti-Tank and explosive weapons not included)

(Non Classic) Ready Carry multiplier; Either a party tier of a certain level, or; 1.5x (Class 1), 2x (Class 2, 3 and 4) whatever the price of the permit for you to hold the weapon out without an imminent threat present or a test use/display in progress.

[Harrious B.]

Another classic aspect;

Return to 100 DM adverts. Please, I beg you. It's not fun to grind perpetually just to get word around that your restaurant or other kind of establishment merely exists, let alone to run it.

We get enough stupid or ridiculous advertisements with the insanely expensive prices, and at 100 DM, you feel more obliged to do the least you can for your business, or announcing something you would like to as somebody trying to meet a minister.

Do not let the idiots ruin it for everyone else, punish them, push them aside, in fact you could even make an advertisement blacklist if you like. Just save us the trouble of having to pay a fifth of a car just to ask to meet somebody that may not even be in the mood.

[Shoots]

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

Return to 100 DM adverts. Please, I beg you. It's not fun to grind perpetually just to get word around that your restaurant or other kind of establishment merely exists, let alone to run it.

This will never happen. Ever. We get stupid advertisements now with the price but image the ten-folded-ness that would come with lowering it. 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

Drugs are returned to vendor access instead of by the shipment. This saves time and removes half of the tedium to earning money, also making it possible to recover more quickly after a big purchase or an enormous fine.

This just seems like laziness. 1, this would ruin the economy. Literally cutting the time to make in half, you are just speeding up the already in the shithole economy to absolute death. 2, obviously if you are caught with drugs, you will get an enormous fine. This is something you have to deal with, as you took the risk of wanting to illegally make drugs. (Something that is against the Imperial Directives, practically making it treason.) 3, Making money should be tedious. It makes you actually think on what you are doing and have a grind and a goal towards your purchases. If you had this sped up process where you can just jump from vendor to processor, you wouldn't really be in a position for roleplay. 
 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

2. (Classic) Revert drug prices - 6,500 DM per brick, 2,000 per processor - 850 per coke sold to the vendor.

Wouldn't this secure the same profit? Just wondering why you would want this changed. Cause I'm pretty sure no matter what it is 2000+ you make. 

 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

Add daytime area mugging protection (Ex. No mugging at Reichstag, in front of Police Station, MOI, etc.). You can still kidnap, but you cannot commit the action of mugging and taking items off a person in close proximity of a government building or facility, or out in the open of the Reichstag Garden. Where there are realistically going to be guards, you cannot just rob somebody.

Those are all populated areas. People who mug you in those areas are taking massive risks by mugging you. I think it is more fault on the person being that susceptible to broad mugging rather than the person who is mugging in public areas. No need to artificially restrict people for taking bold criminal action.

 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

4. (Classic) Give vehicles more vroom vroom power. It's rather sad to deal with cars that can hardly go over curbs.

Agree, but I think they should up the efficiency of the upgrades rather than having them be auto buffed. 

 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

. (Classic) Add back gramophones, recordings and car disc players. We really miss Du Bist So Zauberhaft. It added a fairly good atmosphere to the server.

Already coming sometime in the future, so agree!

 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

6. (Classic) Submaterial, Stacker, Advanced Material - WONDERFUL at helping builders do their thing. Makes detailing so much easier.

Stacker I'm pretty sure can lead to lag machines... But the other two I don't know why aren't available. Someone would have to educate me on that. 

 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

- (Non Classic) Felonies expire or are immediately expunged upon finishing a contract service or conscription (2 weeks or longer) in a Military or Ministry of Interior faction, and going to a judge you are within the jurisdiction of to prove you can be released from conscription and choose either to continue your duty or leave the faction in question.

I think this is heavily an IC thing. Felonies are serious matters and usually tend to stick on your character forever. Changing the server dynamic just because you did something bad just doesn't seem fitting for this community. 

 

 

19 hours ago, Harrious B. said:

- (Classic) Remove the Ministry of Interior from firearms regulation, let judges decide who can wield what weapons from among these classes as it used to be in old Prometheus and let the Ministry of Interior be the ENFORCEMENT of the licenses as they should have been;

Big -1 unfortunately. With the way the Imperial Directives are set-up, the interior are responsible for public safety. policing, and regulation of just about everything physical in the country. That's how its always been, they are the organ which filters through all the contraband. 
 

[Harrious B.]

On 8/19/2025 at 7:45 PM, Shoots said:

This will never happen. Ever. We get stupid advertisements now with the price but image the ten-folded-ness that would come with lowering it. 

Yes, you absolutely will see an influx of stupid advertisements, however, this has been happening anyways and it sounds to me like it's more of a STAFF issue that they can solve quite easily through punishing the wrongdoers. In the case of IC communications capacity through adverts, we should NOT be concerning the price of the advertisement with minge activity.

In fact, if you want to address stupid things in-character, perhaps a method of ADVERTISEMENT BLACKLIST or censorship like the Ministry of Truth should be doing, shall be done. Otherwise, this needs to be addressed by the STAFF.  This price is an enormous debuff to civilian businesses who would have to spend large chunks of their money to say "hey, I have a bar!!/restaurant!!/casino!!". The profits do NOT offput the cost of advertising alone, UNLESS they're absolutely enormous corporations, like Sparrow's or History's.

 

This just seems like laziness. 1, this would ruin the economy. Literally cutting the time to make in half, you are just speeding up the already in the shithole economy to absolute death. 2, obviously if you are caught with drugs, you will get an enormous fine. This is something you have to deal with, as you took the risk of wanting to illegally make drugs. (Something that is against the Imperial Directives, practically making it treason.) 3, Making money should be tedious. It makes you actually think on what you are doing and have a grind and a goal towards your purchases. If you had this sped up process where you can just jump from vendor to processor, you wouldn't really be in a position for roleplay. 
Yes, it is precisely laziness that drives me to say this. It is a VIDEO game. Chopping the time in half of grinding by removing the delivery system will immediately increase the capacity and thus lower the amount of time it takes to grind the same 100,000 DM. People can use up money pretty fast, and we shouldn't be thinking in realistic financial responsibilities on Garry's Mod. We should be thinking of making it big, because here it is precisely where you should be able to do so. This would not break the economy unless it breaks you in real life, where you're no-lifing the server for long enough that you become a threat.

Double Important: If you look at felonies and other charges in the penal code, you can amass quite an enormous debt by doing stupid or abysmal things. Make it plausible to pay this off.

 

Wouldn't this secure the same profit? Just wondering why you would want this changed. Cause I'm pretty sure no matter what it is 2000+ you make. 

Profit would be steady, and without a fluctuation in the price of drugs. This makes it so that you get what you get, no matter what. The point of this is to make getting back up on your feet an easy move, especially with how much criminal charges can set you back.

 

Those are all populated areas. People who mug you in those areas are taking massive risks by mugging you. I think it is more fault on the person being that susceptible to broad mugging rather than the person who is mugging in public areas. No need to artificially restrict people for taking bold criminal action.

The truth is, the server is not anywhere as popular as it once was, and I aim to fix this by removing high tier bullshit through my suggestions. One of the high tier bullshits is the fact that the police are not always around where they're supposed to be, and everybody is pushing paper larp around like they get paid real money.  It used to be that the military and the Security forces would go around patrolling casually, but now everybody's stuck in their base or trying to kidnap other government officials for bullshit reasons. This needs to stop.

 

Agree, but I think they should up the efficiency of the upgrades rather than having them be auto buffed. 

No, because without an automatic buff, a V8 (Cossack) luxury Duessenberg cannot go above a literal 7 inch curb. This is a problem. It also means cars in general get stuck more easily, so we need this to no longer be a problem. Buying enormous, expensive upgrades is not the solution.

 

Already coming sometime in the future, so agree!

 

 

Stacker I'm pretty sure can lead to lag machines... But the other two I don't know why aren't available. Someone would have to educate me on that. 

You can make lag machines much more easily and much more efficiently than with stacker. The best bet in removing that capacity would be just to add a better anti-crash. Nerfing builders as a whole because some people are malicious with their flags is going to reduce server quality. We do not need that.

 

I think this is heavily an IC thing. Felonies are serious matters and usually tend to stick on your character forever. Changing the server dynamic just because you did something bad just doesn't seem fitting for this community. 

Felonies have absolutely no IC meaning right now, except for those who control their ministries based on a criminal record. This is a very niche thing to say, but once felonies DO begin to matter, I think there should be an effective way of expunging them ICly so that a character does not remain permanently tainted because of what could most certainly be an unfairly charged class 3 or 2 felony. Unfair courts have occurred, I've been victim to them myself but none of my characters right now are felons. I just feel like with targetting being a more than likely thing across entire factions, we can lower its effectiveness.

 

Big -1 unfortunately. With the way the Imperial Directives are set-up, the interior are responsible for public safety. policing, and regulation of just about everything physical in the country. That's how its always been, they are the organ which filters through all the contraband. 

Whether or not that is how it is originally run, is not the argument here. The point is to boost roleplay capacity, and with gun permits/licenses being a scarcity for such an enormous while, Party and State members struggle immensely with obtaining these permits because of both their expense and the scarcity of members of the Interior. The only people who are permitted to give these permits/licenses can be and already are immensely biased for out of character reasons. I almost lost a gun license simply for saying I had one. The Ministry of Interior should absolutely not have private and unjustified control over the possession of firearms. It should definitely be reverted - returned to the hands of the Ministry of Justice to determine if you are mentally fit and allowed the privilege of obtaining a firearm for your self defense. They vary, and they change.
 

absolutely marvelous response, this is exactly as I meant you to interpret my recommendations and how to address them;

anyways, I offer my rebuttal in the green text I edited into your response