DamnFool

Well I agree my behaviour was toxic, but I don't believe I should get perma banned. I beg of you, I have been on this server for about a month and I love it. At least punish me with a 2-3 week ban, not a permanent ban. If I lose this server I lose the plans to basically my whole summer.

Are you saying that after I did what I did, which most of us do and do not get punished but rather gagged let alone a perma ban, you are saying that I made yet another account after you banned me on the alt? That is not true. I made one alt, had some fun, got banned and simply wanted to join back to continue RP on my main and be serious. You must have me confused because after I got banned by you for a day on my alt I got banned on my main account by console, so you must be reading it wrong. Still even though I have been gagged 2 times on my main it was a one off instance, I wasn't screaming it 50 times or insulting anybody. Also, if you're saying you banned me first on my main and then I ban evaded while I was doing things on my alt, I was not aware of the main account ban, and if I was I sure as hell wouldn't be screaming the nword I would be appealing it as I'm doing now.

I am sorry, I must have missed it. Still, it does not state it results in a perma ban.

Your Name: DamnFool SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): 76561199805590574 Appeal Type (Apology or Dispute): Apology Which staff member banned you?: CONSOLE How long is your ban for?: Permanent Why were you banned?: Alt acc of STEAM_0:1:364775174 Why do you deserve to be unbanned?: I sincerely apologize, I did not know that an alt account could result in a perma ban. I only made another character to have some fun on it that I couldn't usually do on my main, because I would get muted. I got banned on my alt for 1 day for GR1 and NITRP. (Which has now been changed to perma ban) Additional Information: I just want to keep playing on this server as I enjoy it dearly, and I hold it near to my heart. I've made a lot of friends on Prometheus, and I bet at least one person will vouch for me. Please find it in your heart to unban me. Summer break has just started for me and I planned on playing all day every day. Just please, I am LITERALLY on the verge of tears writing this.

But if I don't follow orders I get fired, or worse. I just want to keep playing. I genuinely enjoy the server. But by that logic, doesn't that mean that every time someone like NCOs and enlisted who haven't deep dived the rules, are ordered to fire, they're gonna get PK'ed because they just didn't know better? Getting a direct orders from the highest rank of CO, and not fulfilling it is pretty serious stuff. So that also mean that CO's or other high ranks shouldn't even have the ability to give an order to open fire(or at least be warned by them that if lower ranks open fire AND DIE, they get PKed), and also, how am I not supposed to die here? Survival in a firefight against a crowd isn't something a person can just control. According to the server's own Government PK guidelines, initiating a shootout is what triggers a PK, but I didn't initiate anything, I defended a position under a direct order from a CO. If the rule is strictly "if you die, you get PKed," then any division combat where a soldier dies becomes an automatic character deletion, which ruins military roleplay entirely. I in fact, did not know the risk. Because the first time, it made sense that I didn't get PKed. You can ask copernicus124, c8jet as well as Generalleutnant Gator(Lukas Falkner IC who was an Oberst at the time) on discord, who even stated he can give full details to Upper Administration. Copernicus's and C8jet's replies to my post have been strangely deleted though. To summarize, I didn't initiate a gunfight. I was given orders, I followed them to avoid punishment, and protect the Bendlerblock from a breach, and protect my superiors. I would also like to state that I wasn't given a proper chance to be heard out before the PK was issued, if I was pulled into a sit I could've explained all of this. In the PK guidelines, it says that PKs absolutely HAVE to be a last resort(for important persons, which I believe I am as the role of Oberfeldwebel is pretty important, leading men, making sure they're properly trained, recruitment and more.), this didn't really look like a last resort. I wasn't even given a proper sit, and this isn't really looking like a last resort PK. I do not believe that as an Oberfeldwebel(with a 2nd class Iron Cross that I earned as a Stabsgefreiter) , I am not subject to rule 4 of the PK guidelines. Under rule 10 of the PK guidelines; "You cannot order the death of more than five people for a specific situation." If you were to review the clips that I posted, in neither situations did I kill more that 5 people or even exactly 5 people. I just want my character back, I feel like I deserve it, also Wolfgang Mayer is a cool name you have to agree.

If those are the rules then that would mean that any time a situation like this happens, someone HAS to get PK'ed because they fired first, and if they don't they get fired.

Character's name & rank: Oberfeldwebel Wolfgang Mayer SteamID: STEAM_0:0:922662423 Staff member who issued the PK (if you know): Prime Explain why you were PK'd: MRDM Why should you be un-PK'd?: Look, I'm not very sure whether, by the book, this was a fair PK, but I do know that an admin in a very similar situation told me I was fine. In both situations the same guy had told me to open fire, I did the same thing in each one, I was only punished in the second one. I feel like this was a lose lose for me no matter what, but that's not why I'm making a PK appeal, I feel this is a precarious situation. If I don't follow orders I get fired, or worse. I just want to keep playing. I genuinely enjoy the server. But by the logic of you not being supposed to fire when a higher ranking official orders it, doesn't that mean that every time someone like NCOs and enlisted who haven't deep dived the rules, are ordered to fire, they're gonna get PK'ed because they just didn't know better? Getting a direct orders from the highest rank of CO, and not fulfilling it is pretty serious stuff. So that also mean that CO's or other high ranks shouldn't even have the ability to give an order to open fire(or at least be warned by them that if lower ranks open fire AND DIE, they get PKed), and also, how am I not supposed to die here? Survival in a firefight against a crowd isn't something a person can just control, and if I die I get PKed. According to the server's own Government PK guidelines, initiating a shootout is what triggers a PK, but I didn't initiate anything, I defended a position under a direct order from a CO. If the rule is strictly "if you die, you get PKed," then any division combat where a soldier dies becomes an automatic character deletion, which ruins military roleplay entirely. I did not know the risk. Because the first time, it made sense that I didn't get PKed. To summarize, I didn't initiate a gunfight. I was given orders, I followed them to avoid punishment, and protect the Bendlerblock from a breach, and protect my superiors. I just want my character back, I feel like I deserve it, also Wolfgang Mayer is a cool name you have to agree. Additional Information: I have clips of both situations, in both I was told to open fire. The clips both show a very similar situation, it might be by the books, but I feel I shouldn't be PK'ed for it. Here are the clips: https://streamable.com/0vsi8e I would also like to state that I wasn't given a proper chance to be heard out before the PK was issued, if I was pulled into a sit I could've explained all of this. In the PK guidelines, it says that PKs absolutely HAVE to be a last resort(for important persons, which I believe I am as the role of Oberfeldwebel is pretty important, leading men, making sure they're properly trained, recruitment and more.), this didn't really look like a last resort. I do not believe that as an Oberfeldwebel(with a 2nd class Iron Cross that I earned as a Stabsgefreiter) , I am not subject to rule 4 of the PK guidelines. Under rule 10 of the PK guidelines; "You cannot order the death of more than five people for a specific situation." If you were to review the clips that I posted, in neither situations did I kill more that 5 people or even exactly 5 people. Furthermore, you can ask copernicus124, c8jet as well as Generalleutnant Gator(Lukas Falkner IC who was an Oberst at the time and gave the direct order) on discord, who even stated he can give full details to Upper Administration regarding the situation and the orders given. Copernicus's and C8jet's replies to my post have been strangely deleted, so I am putting their names here so they can still vouch for me. Just to be completely clear, I WASN'T WARNED THIS COULD RESULT IN A PK