appeal for unfair pk

[zait_sev]

Character's name & rank: jost schulz  [marines] [i forgor the rank]

SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXx): Steam ID: 76561198956787387

Staff member who issued the PK: mewsolini

Explain why you were PK'd:   I was roaming around in Berlin, following my commanding officer in the Marines, when a car full of Muslims drove past me. For roleplay purposes I got in. This was after peak hours, which is mostly considered goofing-off hours. I wasn't expecting to get PKed so I followed them back to their house in the middle of the woods. I got detained by them, otherwise known as tied. I got robbed and they then put me up against another prisoner they have in a fight to the death. After I lost this fight to the death I'm not expecting much. It was a little silly battle in the middle of the woods. There shouldn't be that many consequences to something like this, especially after peak hours!! .......I got PKed after I did something with barely any roleplay in it. 

Why should you be un-PK'd?: My PK was unfair and the guy who PK'd me simply asked the admin once, "Hey can you PK whoever loses?" The admin said, "Sure." I don't think an admin should be able to do that just by a simple request. 

Additional Information: None for now

Edited 1 hour ago by zait_sev

[zait_sev]

i did a lot of things as that character and to be PKed DUE TO A JOKE IN THE WOODS?

sigh.......... 

[Swisher]

Hello, I was the staff member who issued the PK on your character.

The PK was issued under the guideline of Suicide. In this case specifically, you had partook in a voluntary death-game with another player, where you would partake in a fight with only one victor.

When I took the ticket, it was not simply just simply accepted. They had explained how you both had consented to the game, willingly were transported there, and then would both fight.

Whilst preparing for this, I had mentioned in LOOC that you were both being set active as part of this game. You were able to see this, as it was said nearby to you.

During the actual event, you hadn't shown any reluctance or unwillingness, and had charged out to attack the other player.

However, if you didn't consent, that would change things up quite a bit, but you hadn't spoke up or acted in a way that would draw me to that conclusion at all, weighing that you actively fought and didn't oppose the explanation that you consented to the game.

The biggest takeaway should be that rules still apply at all times. On "off hours", you cannot expect me to take consenting to a PK as a joke, especially when warned of the risks.

[zait_sev]

17 hours ago, zait_sev said:

 yes hello. I would like to Rebuttal: some of the stuff you said.

 

firstly I had expressed numerous times that I DID NOT want to partake the only reason I was so eager to fight the other player in the cage match was because I thought it was the only way that I could get out. Secondly it was only after the fight had begun that I had learned that a PK was on the line. [mabe u told us sooner i do not remember as the only way i learned a pk was on the line was via over-hearing one of the muslims who KIDNAPPED ME] 

 

Another thing: because I was kidnapped I could obviously not give actual consent to this little fight/cage match that was put through.  Also I had pleaded numerous times to my kidnappers, "Hey I don't want to do this. Please I'm a Muslim like you." Nevertheless I was still Put into the fight. Of course all of this is not against the rules. PK and me for something that I was pleading not to happen. After you personally said that I could just say no. is my personal issue here. 

 

Of course now I understand that a PK can happen anywhere, anytime, as long as rules are broken

 

However I was kidnapped. I pleaded not to fight. I was put into the fight anyways. Then I learned if I lose the fight I would be PK'd and any objections I could give most likely meant nothing at the time to my kidnappers.   

 

anything that seems unintelligible in this rebuttal here. Please notify me. i use a speach-to-text tool that may have made errors

 

[Swisher]

In response:

1. You hadn't showcased this to me at all. I would understand if you had attempted to say this in any regard, but whilst he was explaining how you had consented, you showed no rebuttal. You had also willingly got into their car, and I mentioned something akin to "PK good to go" in LOOC.

2. You had decided to enter their car without coercion, as explained in your first appeal, and had been placed into a fight. Again, I would completely understand if you hadn't consented and made that clear, but I was working off you actively fighting whilst not saying anything against the battle.

If you have a clip showcasing when you were tied or anywhere showing you didn't consent, that would be helpful. I can only work off of what I saw there after taking the ticket and your word.

I will also attempt to contact the men who organized the event to request a clip or more context.

[zait_sev]

yes thank you for contacting the man now

allow me to convay the story[at least from what i remember] 

 

I was walking on the street with my commander. A car had passed me. I had heard somebody in there say "Salam alaikum." Being a Muslim in real life, I was naturally happy. I had followed my commander a little more, next to the Reichstag, where the car was there. I heard them say "Salam alaikum" once more, to which I responded with another "Salam alaikum." 

 

Now I got into the car and we started chatting. As I thought they were fellow Muslims like me, I was naturally excited and happy. 

 

By the time I got to their "mosque," they had told me, "We need to see your ID." Of course I have that issue where I can't click F8, sadly. They said they were going to tie me up real quick and then they're going to untie me. How foolish I was. 

 

I was tied and thrown in a cage with the other guy, who I would go on to then fight after that. Immediately after I was tied but before I got into the cage, I was pleading, "No, please brothers, I am Muslim," along with various other Arabic words. However the main message was conveyed to them in English, which they could understand very clearly. 

 

 

They themselves should give a firsthand account of them tying me and me pleading for them to untie me. 

 

I was repeatedly pleading, "No please. I am a real Muslim." However it seems they were not real Muslims themselves. 

 

 

To be more clear here I was then chucked in the cage with the guy, where I was left for a second. I was robbed of all my possessions and then the cage match began. Right before the fist fighting actually started, I had heard somebody mutter something about a PK. That's when my worries began. After losing I was PKed.   

 

 

Prior to me being tied, I was not even close to being informed about there being a permanent kill on the line. Had I been actually informed I would have run away, gotten to a safe place and returned to the main city where I would have continued any and all roleplay I was doing prior 

 

After I got PK'd I immediately made myself a new character and contacted an admin who told me to go onto the forums and now we're here. That is the story recap from my perspective. If you can get somebody else, hopefully from one of the people who orchestrated this incident, they could give you another account of what occurred. 

[Swisher]

I'll give my last reply to this here.

I had contacted the men who had organized the event, to which they stated:

"He voluntarily fought and agreed vocaly in front of everyone if  I remember correctly right before we called for you" and "Never heard him complain" whilst providing clips of the fight itself.

If what you say in your side is true, then this would be a very different story. However, if you are unable to provide a clip, it makes it harder to see your story fully.

I only entered the situation when you were at the destination, where he had explained that you agreed to the deathmatch alongside the other person. Neither of you denied this. I had also made a chat in LOOC stating that the PK was good to go.

Whilst watching the entire scene, I didn't see you oppose at all, either verbally or through your actions. You had went where they wanted, fought aggressively in the fight, and ended up losing, leading to your death.