Leaderboard

Your Name: thug SteamID (STEAM_0:X:XXX): STEAM_0:1:419567444 Appeal Type (Apology or Dispute): Dispute Which staff member banned you?: meem How long is your ban for?: 3 days Why were you banned?: global rule 1 Why do you deserve to be unbanned?: Simply put, my ban, as it stands, does not qualify. Let me explain the situation; Meem makes a comment about how the UK will not be investigating their gang problem, or their rape problem, and calls it incredible and says they should be annexed. He states this in OOC chat, an obvious joke, though perhaps on a slightly touchy subject, as we will soon see. I respond a few seconds later in OOC stating that, in fact, meem was gangraped a few years back and could never move beyond the trauma. An obvious joke, one in poor taste, sure, but an obvious joke and far from the worst things that anyone here has said or heard. A minute or two goes by, a few more things are said in ooc by others, including meem calling me a retard, I don't say anything further, I think the situation is over with. I was wrong, as meem pulls me to an office in the Bendlerblock (the office behind the courtroom) with his guards and begins to berate me and reiterate that I am a retard, calling me a freak, etc., and asks why I said that. I, not being able to take him pulling me on an IC character with all his guards to talk shit seriously, say that I said it because it is true, in, again, an obvious joke. He asks why I believe it is true, and I say that it simply is. He then bans me for three days for global rule 1, being harassment, and immediately moves on and goes back to watching/having a slight hand in the court trial. Quite obviously, no harm was done to him. So, to break it down, I said a joke (a shitty one, in poor taste, but a joke nonetheless) in OOC in response to a joke by meem that was on the same topic, I was insulted and shit talked by meem, and then he banned me for global rule 1. Taking a look at global rule one, the rule is quite clear. "Whilst we advocate for Freedom of Speech and have very little limitation on what can and cannot be said, repeated verbal or text abuse of a player causing them discomfort is considered harassment, this includes but is not limited to the usage of racial or other offensive slurs; know where to draw the line. False allegations is also considered harrasment." So, the rule, as most rules do, acts as a sort of checklist, to see what applies and what doesn't. As stated, there is very little limitation on what can and cannot be said. Let us see what applies, shall we? Was the message abuse/abusive? It could be argued either way, it was an obvious joke in response to another joke, but let us say, for the sake of argument, that it was beyond the line of what would be considered abusive. Was the message repeated? No. It was the first and only time I have ever heard someone state it, and the first and only time I have ever stated or will state it. Did the message cause discomfort? While I can't say, as maybe it was a hyper-accurate joke that somehow was true, but considering the fact that meem immediately went to traditional shit talk and then straight back to RP, I would say not enough to be considered truly harmful. Did the message contain any form of racial or otherwise offensive slur? No. Was the message an allegation, and was it a false allegation? No. Saying something happened to someone is categorically not an accusation, and a false allegation would requite some level of intent. Otherwise, saying anything about anyone could be considered an accusation. So, in summary, the only thing that can be truly said about the joke that I made was that it was rude. That should not qualify whatsoever for an individual to teleport you into a side office, talk shit, and then ban you. The message, while in poor taste and not a funny joke in retrospect, remains a joke and does not qualify for the definition of global rule 1. Banning people for global rule violations for jokes, or even for traditional low level shit talk, is ridiculous and nonsensical and not the spirit of the rule. The rule exists to prevent harassment, this doesn't qualify. Additional Information: This is directed to meem-- if you are truly a victim of such a thing, I will apologize, I had no idea. I would have never said it had I known that it was, in fact, the reality of your life and your situation. The message was a joke, and is not based on any genuine belief that it is the truth.

you forgot to mention the other 2 grenadiers you (entirely unprovoked) open fired on outside the ICC front gate. aside from that , based on your library of prior offenses , and your complete lack of situational awareness during our two encounters . I felt 3 days was not only necessary, but definitely a lighter punishment then other staff would have given you. I do apologize for not interacting with you before I made the ban, with the situation with the president I felt I had to act quickly, and that is something I am working on . to add on , your character most definitely should have been PKd on top of the ban but I decided to give you more of a break then I already was. however this ban was more then justified from my perspective.